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K9F



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That's disappointing news JWL. I went for the KM2s as the brand BFG were synonymous with longevity from previous experience. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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JWL



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I know mine carries a fair amount of weight all the time, it can be towing at near enough full capacity plus I don't hang about when I've got to get somewhere but I am starting to get a little concerned at the rate of wear. Then again they might just get to a point where they might "hang on" for ages.
Post #466876 26th Oct 2015 11:18pm
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I had Cooper STTs on my last one, and compared to the BFG ATs on my current one, they were very noisy on the road.

They do look cool of course, but why not look at the latest BFG AT KO2, they look nice and aggressive, as do Cooper ST Max.

Old BFG AT next to new...looks stunning IMHO


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Post #466882 27th Oct 2015 1:28am
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LRmud



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I have Insa Turbo Special Track 265s. They came with the truck.
I must admit they look pretty aggressive and everyone can hear me coming Laughing
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Post #466885 27th Oct 2015 1:56am
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
JWL wrote:
... I do have two gripes about the KM2, first is that if you're in slimy mud, they have a real problem self cleaning unless you drop the pressures right down to 16psi or lower to make them flex. The second gripe is that after 25K miles they are looking more tha half worn. They look as though they aren't going to last as well as any other BFG tyre I've used before.


I'm surprised that they're that worn. On two occasions I managed 100k miles on the original BFG Mud T/A tyres, with enough tread leaft for them to be good on road but not much good off-road, but fully legal (about 6mm) afterwards. The first set of KM2s on my Defender I took off after 80k miles in about the same condition as the originals after 100k, so they don't seem to last as long. I don't know why it is that some people are reporting poor mileages from them, unless they are very variable batch to batch. 80k miles from a set is in my view pretty good.

I suppose that it is possible that they wear at different rates according to pressures. I do run mine fairly hard on the road (36F, 46R on a 110 usually running at around 2.8 tonnes) since these are the pressures I find give even wear across the tread.

I have noticed that the KM2s are far more prone to picking up stones than the original pattern Mud T/A, and the annoying clickety-click is a regular occurrence - so much so that I carry an old screwdriver by the driver's seat to flick out stones.
Post #466949 27th Oct 2015 10:41am
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tookaphotoof



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Netherlands 2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black
Duncans wrote:
Have you had a look at the BFG AT KO2? The new one is awesome and looks better than the MT. Going for the 235/85 version in a few weeks time hopefully.


Available in UK?
Had a look on the Dutch website. No 235/85 16.
Post #466952 27th Oct 2015 10:56am
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Why on earth would you want mud tyres on a Defender that's never going to go off road?
That's just cutting off your nose to spite your face.

If you don't care about anything other than an off road look, you could always just put dumper tyres on...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/750-x-16-Tyre-Dr...0682454525
Post #466976 27th Oct 2015 12:35pm
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blackwolf



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Why do you want a Defender if you're never going to take it off-road?
Post #466997 27th Oct 2015 1:33pm
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just fitted 285 75 16 at ko2 to mine only been on few days now so cant comment really on performance but they do look good
Post #467032 27th Oct 2015 4:34pm
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K9F



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blackwolf wrote:
Why do you want a Defender if you're never going to take it off-road?


Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter

Simply because "I can!" As do many others. In fact I don't need a Defender at all, did only just over 2000 miles between MOTs last year and not a single one of them offroad. Did I enjoy them miles any less than those that spend it up to their axles (and higher) in mud? Doubt it! Very Happy Thumbs Up Whistle If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #467055 27th Oct 2015 5:32pm
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If you're ever in North Norfolk give me a shout and I'll take you down some lovely greenlanes Thumbs Up

Back OT, and a slightly less inflammatory answer, have you seen the Cooper Discovery AT3s? They look good (and perform well).


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K9F



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They 'look quiet' from an on-road perspective. Thumbs Up If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #467068 27th Oct 2015 6:07pm
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blackwolf



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K9F wrote:
blackwolf wrote:
Why do you want a Defender if you're never going to take it off-road?


Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter

Simply because "I can!" As do many others. In fact I don't need a Defender at all, did only just over 2000 miles between MOTs last year and not a single one of them offroad. Did I enjoy them miles any less than those that spend it up to their axles (and higher) in mud? Doubt it! Very Happy Thumbs Up Whistle


Precisely why you have mud tyes - because you can, and because you want to! Thumbs Up

Long may it continue! Rolling with laughter

Thank you for making the point I was hoping someone would make.
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BW - You've got to let it go, we all know what sparkys are like. Razz Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter
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I've got KM2's on, never found their handling a problem on the road in wet or dry conditions, carrying weight, towing. They're good off road too, although they do seem to have a little trouble self cleaning. Wear rates don't seem too bad, but I don't think I'll get 80k miles from them, certainly not keeping enough tread to make them useful off road. I've a set of BFG A/T's on the Disco 2 and they don't look as though they've worn at all in over 20k miles.

If you want to put a set of whatever tyres on, for whatever reason, then do it - it's up to you. Same as going off road or not, washing it or not, checker plating it or not, etc, etc. Dirty Deeds - Done Dirt Cheap
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