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| YOLO110 Member Since: 14 Feb 2015 Location: Perth Oz and Stansted UK Posts: 1645  
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Better security at only 1m away!
It's let Bond down a few times however!  YOLO... You Only Live Once... |
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23rd Oct 2015 10:19am |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610  
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There is a quick fix that will extensively extend the range.
I'll route around for it. **EDIT** If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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23rd Oct 2015 10:29am |
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| discomog Member Since: 09 May 2015 Location: Notts/Lincs Border Posts: 2530 
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Just checked out the distance on my 2015 Defender, it works from 31 metres. If you then hold the fob against your head and activate it, it increases the distance to 36 metres!
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23rd Oct 2015 10:31am |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610
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^^
Dependent on intelligence. Apparently an increase in IQ level will actually reduce the range if the fob is held to the 'swede' as the signals can become masked by the wealth of information contained therein.  If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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23rd Oct 2015 10:39am |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6611 
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Extend the aerial on the 10AS box and it's fine.
The 2015MY got a new alarm/locking system (new keyfobs) and the range is "normal"   1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW |
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23rd Oct 2015 10:57am |
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| Venomator Member Since: 25 Aug 2014 Location: Peterborough Posts: 2087
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I can vouch for that, having picked up my MY2016 Keswick Special just a week ago...
I was pleasantly surprised the fob worked from a decent distance... 
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The GREEN One... MY2016 Urban Truck Build Thread - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic40548....al[/color] |
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23rd Oct 2015 11:05am |
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| Stacey007 Member Since: 25 Sep 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3758
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I also find this a bit odd after 'normal' cars
However thinking about it WHY do I want to open or lock my car from so far away?... I never do? I walk up to it and open it just before I pull the door, as I lock it I walk away... so really its not a problem? My last car had a remote boot, great I thought until one day while cleaning it bent down doing the wheels it opens onto a stone garage.... |
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23rd Oct 2015 11:15am |
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| alby Member Since: 25 Dec 2014 Location: The Shire Posts: 159 
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I have the new type silver and black fob with mine, a 2014 model year vehicle.
Will agree, the range on the newer fobs is distressingly normal, I can easily unlock it from 20-25m away. It is useful to be able to unlock it from a decent distance when needed, for example when juggling bags of shopping, rucksacks, boots, coats and other stuff |
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23rd Oct 2015 11:16am |
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| Stacey007 Member Since: 25 Sep 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3758
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^ you still have to physically open the doors though so need hands free...
Hence the feature in my last car that opened the boot as you walk up to it was great, until it opens it on a solid brick garage
I can live with this quirk |
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23rd Oct 2015 11:23am |
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| tonyhedge Member Since: 07 Jul 2015 Location: Worcestershire Posts: 101 
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Hope you're not in a grumpy mood having just snapped an indicator stalk!  That's not a dent, it's a rivet. That's not a dent, it's a rivet. That's not ... oh! That is a dent!
2014 90 XS SW 1997 Discovery 300TdiS (retired to stud) 1966 Series IIA 88" (now my son's) 2001 Astra - I need something to go and buy the parts when the others are off the road! |
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23rd Oct 2015 11:53am |
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| Eduardo Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: RegiÃģn Metropolitana Posts: 2110  
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Hi there!
Just one advice for the ones that extend the aerial of the 10AS. On our last trip in the far south of Chile, one of the hotel were located quite near to huge radio interference field (all the Defenders had the same trouble there) and was impossible to disable the 10AS with the Key Fob. Finally and after several hours trying to start the Defender we take out the famous extension. For our fortune we finally were able to disable the 10AS and continue our trip. My thougth is that in a high interference scenario the extension will catch more noise, not allowing the signal of the keyfob to be transmitted correctly to the 10AS. Cheers! Eduardo MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64' MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo" Click image to enlarge |
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23rd Oct 2015 12:39pm |
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| RRUK Site Supporter Member Since: 31 Mar 2010 Location: Leicestershire Posts: 2025
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So for me, typically it's when I am out in the field, shooting. I normally take someone else around with me, and often, you walk away from the cars and someone has forgotten something and you have to unlock it for them from a distance, or at the end of a drive, that passenger is back at the car before you, maybe in bad weather, and they need to get in as quickly as possible. if I have to be 1 metre away all the time it's a bit of a hassle. 2016 D4 HSE 1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF 1982 Series 3 SWB Petrol |
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23rd Oct 2015 1:21pm |
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| Wild Card 90 Member Since: 03 Dec 2014 Location: Gerlingen Posts: 1060  
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Eduardo, good point made there. Having experienced a similar problem due to radio smog which immobilised my 90 TDi many years ago, I wouldnīt want to encourage the same to happen with the current Puma. I have about 12 metre range with an unmodified 2012 system, and that is plenty. Only 1-2 metres range would get on my nerves, as I recently discovered when the first attempt at installing the ignition key in the remote housing caused exactly that.
Stephen 1998 Tdi 90 SW, 2008 Td4 90 SW, 2012 2.2 90 SW, 2" raised Trailmaster/Terrafirma Heavy Track Raids, 255 MTīs, Recaro CSīs, anorak, wellingtons |
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23rd Oct 2015 1:34pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17450 
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Eduardo, you have a very good point.
Not long after I bought my Disco 2 in 2002, I had persistent problems unlocking it when it was parked on my driveway but not if it was parked in the road 20 or so feet away. I spent a lot of time researching remote locking systems, RFI, and other related stuff, and with the aid of various pieces of expensive test equipment borrowed from work (ie the MOD) established that the probelm was interference from a rogue TETRA cell (this was at the time that Dorset police's TERA network was being installed and commission, I think by Hutchison, but before it went live. The was a clear problem with a local cell which was causing very localised problems with vehicle entry systems, since the two systems use very similar frequencies. Since at the time I wasn't sure if it was a faulty cell or something that was going to persist, I looked (with help from LR) into various solutions. One feasible option was in fact to reduce the sensitivity of the receiver, ie reduce its range, which actually worked. Another otpion we explored was to replace the UK-spec system with a Saudi (I think it was Saudi, it was certainly somewhere like that) system which operates on a different frequency well removed from TETRA, however this woudl (a) be illegal in the UK and (b) would potentially interfere with one of the RAF's radio systems, so not a good idea. In the end I emailed Hutchison and explained what was happening and invited them to check their systems. They - quite naturally - denied that it could possibly be anything to do with the TETRA network but curiously withing 12 hours the problem disappeared and has never, at least not yet, recurred. The point to this ramble though is that there is no doubt whatsoever that increasing the range of your entry system will also increase its susceptibility to noise. |
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23rd Oct 2015 3:51pm |
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