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Merlin



Member Since: 30 Oct 2010
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Oil?
I've managed to put 5W/40 oil in instead of 5W/30. Should I change it or do you think it doesn't matter as the next oil change is in 6K.

Merlin
Post #76779 20th Jun 2011 8:55am
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ibexman



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It should be fine
Post #76780 20th Jun 2011 8:58am
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stevie d



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Won't really matter as long as the spec of the oil is correct i.e ACEA ratings

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Post #76781 20th Jun 2011 8:59am
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MK



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
It is too thick. And. I don`t think it is A1/B1 or A5/B5. Most x-W40 are A3-B3-B4-E7 etc Puma 110" SW

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Post #76787 20th Jun 2011 9:52am
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stevie d



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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 90 Td5 SW Alpine White
A3/B4 oil won't cause a problem, it is a higher spec oil than A1/B1, but it is not a fuel saving oil. (A1/B1 is now a relatively old spec and many mineral based oils can achieve it, A5/B5 being the updated version).

A3/B4 has a higher High tensile stress rating required by some engines, but that doesn't come with fuel saving, otherwise the oil is the same as A5/B5.

There are not many x/w/30 oils that achieve A3/B4 normally x/w/40 or above.

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Post #76853 20th Jun 2011 5:07pm
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MK



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
ACEA specs do not address the viscosity issue directly. Viscosity and HTHS value is not a direct relationship. Puma 110" SW

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Post #76859 20th Jun 2011 5:46pm
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Merlin



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Hey, this is all a bit technical for me. I’ve read the label and it says: API SM/CF ACEA A3, B3, B4. Is this ok?

Merlin
Post #76997 21st Jun 2011 3:10pm
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MK



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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Chawton White
It is not great but it should be ok. Personally I would switch back to the OE specs next time. The engine was (including oil pump) was designed to run a 5W-30 and a very specific one. Have a look to the Opie oils website. Thumbs Up Puma 110" SW

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Post #76999 21st Jun 2011 3:18pm
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stevie d



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It will be fine, hotter country's use thicker oil anyway.

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Post #77048 21st Jun 2011 7:38pm
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stevie d wrote:
A3/B4 oil won't cause a problem, it is a higher spec oil than A1/B1, but it is not a fuel saving oil. (A1/B1 is now a relatively old spec and many mineral based oils can achieve it, A5/B5 being the updated version).

A3/B4 has a higher High tensile stress rating required by some engines, but that doesn't come with fuel saving, otherwise the oil is the same as A5/B5.

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MK



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stevie d wrote:
It will be fine, hotter country's use thicker oil anyway.

Steve Thumbs Up


Interesting. What oil LR recommends for such hot countries? Puma 110" SW

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Naks



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MK wrote:
Interesting. What oil LR recommends for such hot countries?


IIRC for Dubai it's an Xw50 or Xw60 oil --
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Post #77091 22nd Jun 2011 5:18am
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astoltz



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I service my car in between the dealer service.

Beginning 2011 I found out Midrand and Centurion Dealers in SA uses Castrol SLX Professional 5W30
I used the same on my "in between service" but would have like to use Shell Helix Ultra 5W40 or Even Mobil 1 0W40) (I think 5W30 is to thin for our summer climate and going north over our borders)

So this week Land Rover Centurion serviced the Puma and they used Mobil 1 0W40 (And this was not at my request Smile

Now me too will switch from 5W30 to 0W40 or 5W40

Edited since last posting for Clarity: (it is Mobil 1 -- (0W40) I am refering to above)



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Post #78523 30th Jun 2011 7:45pm
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kingofthesparks



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stevie d wrote:
It will be fine, hotter country's use thicker oil anyway.

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Is Newmarket in a hotter country then Shocked
Post #78524 30th Jun 2011 7:52pm
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4wheeler



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Australia 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Chawton White
My dealer has supplied Castrol Magnatec 5w/40 from new. The Defender now has 42,000km on the odo. Car seems to run fine on it and does not consume much of it between services (10,000km interval) and best of all, it seems to stay in the engine and not end up on the ground!

Fuel consumption running this oil is around 10 litres per 100 km - doesn't seem to change much.
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