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| Rallymental Member Since: 17 Aug 2015 Location: The Garden of England Posts: 468   
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Er, yeah!
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24th Sep 2015 8:55am |
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| fathaggis Member Since: 31 May 2015 Location: taynuilt Posts: 385 
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i have a yeti and love it but i did get it remapped
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24th Sep 2015 11:17am |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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BMW is now under attack as per the news here today. The same NGO that brought to light the VW scandal now is reporting to have tested here in Europe a BMW X3 equipped with the 20d engine, on the road, not in the lab, and has found that in reality it overshoots the European exhaust gas limits by 11 times...
BMW for now of course is playing innocent. Will be interesting to see how this story will keep building. Who knows, maybe our Pumas in reality are not Euro 4 and Euro 5, but only............ 
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw Last edited by ericvv on 24th Sep 2015 3:45pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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24th Sep 2015 1:37pm |
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| Muddybigdog Member Since: 11 Apr 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 1019 
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 Jumped ship to reliability - Mitsubishi L200
Puma 90 XS - Sold D3 - 2.7 S x2 (both Sold) Freelander 2 HSE - Sold Freelander 1 - Sold Disco 2 - Sold |
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24th Sep 2015 2:54pm |
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| davew Member Since: 02 Jan 2012 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 888  
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So, is an EGR illegal ? Surely that's also a cheat to artificially reduce emissions readings during a test and offers pretty much no benefit in normal driving ? http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net/
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24th Sep 2015 3:16pm |
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| Iggle piggle Member Since: 10 Sep 2014 Location: Wales Posts: 378 
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Have you bought a Volkswagen in the last five years?
You may have been mis-sold TDI. Call now and get your compensation claim started.  |
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24th Sep 2015 3:24pm |
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| o4dn Member Since: 08 Jan 2010 Location: South West Posts: 545  
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The EGR is fitted to reduce the NOx emissions. It would be illegal if the EGR was enabled or was programmed specifically to defeat the lab tests but would remain disabled otherwise in real driving conditions - That is not the case. It is illegal (at least in some countries, I believe in most European countries) to remove or disable the EGR, or tamper with any of the anti-pollution systems fitted on the car (that obviously includes DPF removal or fitting a decat exhaust). |
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24th Sep 2015 3:52pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4704 
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Was the Iveco Daily 4x4 withdrawn from the European market as it couldn't meet the necessary emission target? Seems I heard something about that. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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24th Sep 2015 4:06pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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VW is sinking deeper into this. Switzerland have formally banned all sales of new VW/Audi/Skoda/Seat cars which are Euro5 and which have a 1.2TDI/1.6TDI/2.0TDI. Euro6 is ok. First country to do this, wonder if others will follow. You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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25th Sep 2015 6:43pm |
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| Venomator Member Since: 25 Aug 2014 Location: Peterborough Posts: 2087
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JLR confirms its emissions are honest...
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JLR CONFIRMS ITS EMISSIONS ARE HONEST By: Theo Ford-Sagers Date: 25.09.2015 Courtesy LROI Web Site Jaguar Land Rover has confirmed to LRO that it does not use technology that would manipulate an emissions test. JLR Confirms Its Emissions Are Honest Land Rover does not attempt to fool emissions tests, according to JLR As the Volkswagen emissions scandal spreads to Europe, concerns have been raised as to whether other manufacturers may also have played dirty. VW’s ‘defeat’ software, which puts the engine in a low-polutant mode purely in order to pass an emissions test, has been used to falsify results in the Europe as well as the USA, it emerged recently. As UK regulators prepare to re-test vehicles by other manufacturers to ensure the cheating is not widespread, JLR has expressed confidence in its emission reduction technologies, declaring to LRO that ‘Jaguar Land Rover does not use any emissions 'defeat' devices or software.’ Rog...
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25th Sep 2015 6:50pm |
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| Eduardo Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: RegiĂłn Metropolitana Posts: 2110  
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Appears today in the news...
http://www.autoevolution.com/news/dieselga...01934.html Looks like was a common practice among some carmakers. Eduardo MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64' MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo" Click image to enlarge |
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11th Nov 2015 9:59pm |
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| o4dn Member Since: 08 Jan 2010 Location: South West Posts: 545
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And the list goes on... Now includes Land Rover as well
http://www.ndtv.com/world-news/bentley-ren...al-1398445 “A Land Rover immobilized is a moral defeat for the driver and bad publicity for the vehicle, […] it's up to you to do justice to your Land Rover!” - Land Rover Driving Technique. -- 2009 2.4 Puma Defender 90 SW 1979 Land Rover Series 3 88" |
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22nd Apr 2016 3:49pm |
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| Disco_Mikey Member Since: 16 Nov 2014 Location: Dundee Posts: 531 
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But that is different.
VW was singled out as there was some clever software that detected when it was in "test" mode, and cut emissions output |
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22nd Apr 2016 4:07pm |
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| DiscoStu Member Since: 30 Jun 2007 Location: London/The far north Posts: 255 
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No rules broken as
. All manufacturers will fail when measured in the real world compared to the test lab, but they were only ever asked to meet the emissions requirements in the lab. What VW did was defeat the lab test, which is why they should have the book thrown at them. My Disco 'best bits' Defender 110 XS CSW 2013 |
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22nd Apr 2016 4:46pm |
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