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bluebottle



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Grenadier wrote:
... My old man had a Springer, but the issue for me was the dog's energy/restlessness. I am looking for a balance between a dog that will run with me when we're out and about, chill and relax when we're home (or with friends etc). The black Lab seems to keep returning as the best option...


Springador? I think there was an article in The Field about them not that long ago... 2005 110 XS - Cairns Blue "Bertha" - Gone, and sorely missed
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Mr Fox



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Be a little wary of the 'designer combination dogs'; many are being mass-bred and on top of that, there is a discussion about whether the two breeds should have been paired in the first place.

If you can, adopt from a reputable charity. If you go the breeder route, do your research and ensure the breeder is reputable and screens for the issues associated with the breed you're interested in.

Our GSD is working stock and she is all the better for it IMHO.
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Grenadier wrote:
Thank you all once again. RickyD especially for all the top tips. My old man had a Springer, but the issue for me was the dog's energy/restlessness. I am looking for a balance between a dog that will run with me when we're out and about, chill and relax when we're home (or with friends etc). The black Lab seems to keep returning as the best option. Also, thanks for the tips on sporting vs show dogs as given where we live and how we live, the former seem the better option. Being self employed and living in so much open space, training should not be an problem. Finally on re-homing, the issue is we have a cat (he himself re-homed) so I am keen to have as young a pup as appropriate (I understand the timelines and vaccinations etc) so that Alfie, the cat, not only feels unthreatened but could possibly establish himself as the boss. Mrs Grenadier would do her nut if a new dog affected the wee man too much. So, based on everything you have all said, a male sporting black Lab it is. RickyD, I may have to invite you for a pint and see your lovely Lab next time I pop over to the UK (normally SW London based...) to say hello and discuss Labs (and dogs in general) in more detail.... Thumbs Up


It would be an honour and a pleasure Sir. Thumbs Up I started with nothing and still have most of it left!
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RFT



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Sounds like you need a tri colour short haired border collie, excellent on the hills, loyal and very smart. 130 Puma HCPU with an Artica 240LR Demountable Camper
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stanley



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Defender 2 dog walk perhaps Grenadier when you over!

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AndyTunn



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This is clearly the only answer - get a pack...
https://instagram.com/p/5_e8RyNXJo/

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Grenadier



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That's certainly taking it from zero to hero.... Shocked Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

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Grenadier



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stanley wrote:
Defender 2 dog walk perhaps Grenadier when you over!

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Sounds good. Don't own wellies though, so I'll have to sport my Scarpas and look like a Mountain Guide wandering around the peaks of Hampshire....although my Army obligatory, go-anywhere, 4x4 suede loafers always cut a dash on muddy woodland paths... Whistle Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

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stanley



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Who needs dynamat when you can use Lab hair for soundproofing!



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Post #447610 20th Aug 2015 7:49am
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Mr Fox



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Stanley, how do you tell them apart! Smile
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stanley



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I can recognise my 3 , the rest are others on a shoot I was invited to a few years back !
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stanley wrote:
Who needs dynamite when you can use Lab hair for soundproofing!


love this pic Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up
are there 8 of them in there? My 109 thread

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Rickydodah



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AndyTunn wrote:
This is clearly the only answer - get a pack...
https://instagram.com/p/5_e8RyNXJo/

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I'm working on it

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 I started with nothing and still have most of it left!
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bigdave



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AM94 wrote:
Be a little wary of the 'designer combination dogs'; many are being mass-bred and on top of that, there is a discussion about whether the two breeds should have been paired in the first place.

If you can, adopt from a reputable charity. If you go the breeder route, do your research and ensure the breeder is reputable and screens for the issues associated with the breed you're interested in.



totally agree - we rescued a sprollie (border collie /. springer) Semi Feral and rescue.

Many behaviour issues and mixing the brains of a collie and the barmy energy of a springer is cruel in my opinion.

However 7 years later hes brilliant - my best mate and 24 hour companion.

Hope you find the right one.

Dave Shipping is my thing.
If we cant shift it, to anywhere, it cant be shifted!! md.couriers@virgin.net
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Grenadier



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stanley wrote:
Who needs dynamite when you can use Lab hair for soundproofing!


Awesome picture. Thumbs Up But I'll start with one for now... Whistle

The previous owner of my 110 had a wonderful British Bulldog (even as a Frenchman he was an affirmed Anglophile....can't be many of those around) and to this day, almost a year on, after his valet presented sale and my numerous vacuums, I still have a lot of Bulldog attached to the felt rear of my middle seats Big Cry Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

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