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Clive



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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 90 Td5 X-Tech LE Zambezi Silver
Breather pipe
There's a breather pipe in the NS rear wheel arch in my Td5 90, I assume it's connected to the fuel tank.


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Now that I'm able to see it properly, (it was previously entirely encrusted with mud,) I noticed that there are some splits in the rubber pipe where it bends. I'm concerned about dirt and water getting it through the cracks so I'd like to replace it but I can't see where the other end is.

Does anyone know if it's a "tank-off" job to replace it or if it can be done it-situ, or for that matter if it's something completely different?
Post #433758 26th Jun 2015 9:36am
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munch90



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yes fuel tank breather , connected to top of tank

yes can be replaced without dropping tank but not a easy job , you need to get a new really flexi pipe to be able to get it on at tank end
Post #433765 26th Jun 2015 10:11am
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blackwolf



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When you repair/replace it, it is well worth running the pipe to somewhere more sensible (I ran mine into the rear body by the back of the rear light units).

It is guaranteed that with the breather in the standard position you will eventually find the tank becomes infected with the "diesel bug" due to the moisture and crud to which the breather is subjected.
Post #433773 26th Jun 2015 10:31am
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Clive



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Thanks Munch, nice to know I don't have to run the tank out first Thumbs Up Another one on the round tuit list then.

Is the breather connection to the tank in the centre or is it off to one side? just trying to figure out the best way to get at it.

Thanks also to Blackwolf, good point about re-locating it, makes sense Thumbs Up
Post #433803 26th Jun 2015 1:18pm
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munch90



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you can normally see it though the gap between chassis and floor

instead of moving mine I fitted a inline fuel filter to the end then extended pipe off filter a bit to help stop any crap going up pipe

not had a problem in 5 yrs since I done it

filter like this
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Post #433808 26th Jun 2015 1:39pm
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K9F



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Slightly Off Topic as mine is not a TD5.

I recently had leakage from mine due to it splitting at the fuel filler end. I carried out an inline repair for the time being but will replace the entire length with reinforced pipe if/when it leaks at the tank end. Damn sight cheaper sourcing your own 'woven' reinforced 3/4" ID pipe than spending £70 on an OEM (Puma) one!


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Post #433811 26th Jun 2015 2:19pm
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Clive



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Well that was a PITA fiddly job, got it done it though Thumbs Up

Looking through the gap between chassis and tub floor, (about 20mm,) I could see the rest of the pipe which had split and completely fallen apart near where it connects to the tank, I used a long small flat blade screwdriver to release the clip and a long pair of forceps to grab the remains of the pipe and pull it off, (long nosed pliers wouldn't reach.)


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I found a spare 2ft length of new 6mm fuel pipe in the garage, but there was no way it would go on the connector without being able to reach in there, so I had a look round and found a short length, about a foot, of ½" copper pipe, the rubber flexi pipe was a nice snug fit inside it so after a bit of stretching with the tips of my long nose pliers and a smear of Fairy liquid, I managed to shove the end of the fuel pipe onto the connector using the copper pipe as a "handle", I then pulled the copper pipe off and routed the rubber one properly - job done.

The thing that concerned me was the amount of mud on top of the tank and inside the old split pipe, I just wonder how much of that made it's way into the tank. Time for a new fuel filter perhaps Whistle
Post #433861 26th Jun 2015 6:41pm
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munch90



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I did warn you it was easy !

But thats exactly how i done mine with something up the middle of pipe to guide on

mine was a bit of a proper pig to get on as i used braided high pressure pipe fuel pipe , as i couldnt be bothered to go out and get a bit of softer pipe and had a length of the other pipe in stock
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SteveD



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My breather pipe was in 4 peices and the larger one to the filler cap was split at the tank, so I did drop the tank out. Also allowed me to clean and paint the chassis at the rear. Nice to be able to fill the tank up now rather than the half a tank which would leak out if driving up hill!

Steve
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