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K9F



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Re: Any household sparks?
What doesn't make sense is this with regards to whether a 32 amp or 40 amp should be used and makes the rating of it immaterial. I would still concentrate on the input side to the pullcord.

excossack wrote:
Now with the shower off and the pull switch off I was sitting on the couch and behind me in the cupboard is the fuse box I heard the breaker trip - This is about 10 - 15 mins of turning off the shower.
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Caterham



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I know there shouldn't be .... but is it possible there's an extract fan also connected to the shower circuit (or anything else for that mater).

sounds like a neutral to earth fault to me. could the fan be humidity or timer controlled?

if there is anything connected can it be isolated / turned off?

- food for thought.
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The fan is connected to the light circuit and as far as I know the only thing on that cicruit is the shower 1999 Defender TD5 110

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With it tripping with no load it is either the pullcord input supply or a 'lazy breaker' letting go when it feels like it. If you have another breaker of the same rating in your board swap it out and see if the fault transfers. One thing to discount before you shell out good money for a sparky. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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Caterham



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Disconnect the neon on the shower pull cord?
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The neon will not illuminate until the cord is pulled. If the breaker is tripping with it switched off you can safely discount the neon as being the issue. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

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The spark is heading over to have a look this afternoon. So will see what he has to say for himself.
I will let you know the outcome 1999 Defender TD5 110

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Assuming it's been connected correctly?

Whatever will be interesting to know what the cause was.
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The spark came out had a look and concluded that it was the breaker (at least partly at fault) and replaced FOC. But, I do think I will have to upgrade the breaker and wire to the shower I think the shower is a 7500 - 8500w so at the limit of the breaker. I think he mentioned (I was not present but the mrs was) that the breaker has +10% on the load rating? 1999 Defender TD5 110

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