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nidge n



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Krissvdh wrote:
As requested.

Kris



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So are we now saying that those of us with 2.2 should be changing their oil pump regardless of recall or not?

it looks like Ford have made amendments / upgraded the pump. i just wonder why LR are strangely quiet on this. For me,it makes sense to upgrade rather than risk a failure. Or am i being unnecessarily pessimistic Big Cry
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No just impatient... Wink
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It may not be the same pump. The pumps coming through in the rework kits are Peugeot Citroen marked units. I've not seen one of the take offs yet. I'll have a look when I do.

Kris
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Just caught this thread, can one easily tell which pump might be fitted?

JD 2008 TDCi 2.4 XS CSW
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no its inside sump
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Yikes.....Mine is 2008 and not under warranty anyway, whats the recommend here, has anyone changed theirs just as a safety measure is it 2.2 and 2.4 ?

JD 2008 TDCi 2.4 XS CSW


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johnnyd wrote:
Just caught this thread, can one easily tell which pump might be fitted?

JD


no its inside

what year is yours ?
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johnnyd wrote:
Yikes.....Mine is 2008 and not under warranty anyway, whats the recommend here, has anyone changed theirs just as a safety measure ?

JD


yours is 2,4 not 2.2

only effects 2.2 euro5 onwards
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ah...relief .....thanks munch90

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"hot idle moan"
Just researching via the net on all things Ford and oil pump and had to share this one even though it's not 2.2 related:

http://www.exploroz.com/Forum/Topic/109727...ssues.aspx Shocked

Ford have produced a TSB that details a known problem, that they call, a "hot idle moan".

The problem is that oil pump and oil pickup pipe pulsations have been producing oil pan vibration.

The TSB details a modification that involves a new oil pan and a new oil pump pickup tube.

"Subject: P375 Ranger 3.2L Hot Idle Moan (Supersedes TSB 13-01-AP to include oil pick up tube)
Models Affected: 2012 Ranger with 3.2L PUMA engine
Markets Affected: E and G Markets
OASIS Symptom Codes: 448***, 4481**
Description: Some 2012 Rangers built between 8/29/2011 to 9/6/2012 and with a 3.2L puma engine may exhibit a hot idle moan noise coming from the engine oil pan area.
Root Cause(s):
Oil pump pulsations may be transmitted from the oil pump through the oil pick up tube onto the oil pan causing a moan noise.
Dealer Action:
A new oil pan and new oil pump inlet tube should be installed. The new oil pan design has a different stiffness and the oil pump pick-up tube has been revised to prevent vibrations from radiating the noise.
Service Procedure:
This procedure addresses noise in hot idle condition.
1. Is noise present during hot idle conditions or within 1 to 2 minutes after idling?
a. Yes – proceed to step 2.
b. No – This procedure does not apply. Proceed with normal diagnostics.
2. Remove and replace sump and oil pick-up tube with a new level part. Refer to 2012 Ranger Workshop Manual (WSM), SECTION 303-01C Engine - 3.2L Duratorq-TDCi (148kW/200PS) – Puma - Removal and Installation – Oil Pan
3. To install, reverse the removal procedure
4. Fill the oil pan with clean engine oil. Refer to: Specifications (303-01C Engine - 3.2L
Duratorq-TDCi (148kW/200PS) - Puma, Specifications)."
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See here:

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic36247.html An engine to TDi for!
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