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JimC



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Can anyone assist with a fog light ECU connector?
I just got a new-to-me ex-Gibraltar MoD 130 300tdi. It's really great, with low miles (tons of hours I'm sure...) and absolutely no rust.

The problem is though that it's been badly cannibalized for bits and pieces. In chasing a faulty rear fog light I discovered that 1) the switch was actually a heated rear window switch with with the wrong face on it and 2) someone cut out the connector to the fog light ECU, leaving these badly crimped, un-insulated terminals just plugged into the unit.

Does anyone have a donor harness who can cut the plug out for me? A source for the right connector would be just as good, but I'm hoping that there is a wreck or something somewhere and someone can hook me up.

I'm happy to swap favors/pay money, but in the short term, I'll take any help I can get!

Thanks

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Post #417174 19th Apr 2015 6:37am
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think there the same relay as used in some rover cars and Honda cars

just thought it might help in find one
Post #417179 19th Apr 2015 7:24am
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leeds



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Contact PaulMc on here. He specialises in Land Rover Connectors

Very helpful and knowledgeable guy when it comes to vehicle electrics and switches etc.


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Try these....

http://www.dingocroft.co.uk/cgi-bin/ss0000...TION=Go%21

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Post #417196 19th Apr 2015 8:39am
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JimC



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Thanks guys - I've been looking through lists of connectors and not finding the right item. I though I had the right 4-pin square connector with keys at the top and it turned out to be the wrong size.

I'll contact PaulMC and see if he can help. Having only a vague idea of what I need is a key issue here.
Post #417204 19th Apr 2015 9:44am
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mk1collector



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Another vote for paulmc, he's helped me out a few times Thumbs Up Ray
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http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic17615.html
Post #417208 19th Apr 2015 10:31am
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PaulMc



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I've replied to Jim's PM.

I thought that the information might also be useful to others - so, I'm posting it here as well.


The connector for the "one touch" fog lamps ECU is a strange one.

It’s a Sumitomo connector - but, it’s not in their catalogue.

It's similar to their HM090 Series connectors - but, slightly larger -




It has a Land Rover/MG-Rover part number of - YPC10002 - but, it's not available as a spare part.




The terminals are also not listed in the Sumitomo catalogue.

They are similar to the HM090 (2.3mm) terminals - but, they are 110 (2.8mm) terminals.


Land Rover list the terminals to fit this connector as a spare part, part number - YPL10003

http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/Item--i-YPL10003


But, this has been out of stock for the last 4 years.



YPC10002 has been used on a number of Land Rover/MG-Rover vehicles (and is still used on the current Defender).

So, if you fancy a trip to the breakers yard - in addition to the fog lamp ECU found on Defenders, Rover 600s, and late-model Rover Minis, the connector is also used as the indicator switch connector on the following vehicles –

    MG TF
    Rover 25
    MG ZR
    Rover 45
    MG ZS
    Rover Mini
    MGF (->2001)
    MGF (2001->)
    Rover 100
    Rover 200
    Rover 400
    Discovery 1
    Discovery II
    Freelander 1


So, if you do manage to find a used connector - make sure that you get it with sufficient wire 'tails' to enable you to connect it to your vehicle's harness.


I have also found that the 4-way 2.8mm (.110") female housing of this type of connector, will just-about fit the one touch ECU –

http://www.polevolt.co.uk/acatalog/info_ML4KIT.html




This type of connector is called all sorts of things – ‘Mini Lock connectors’, ‘Hitachi connectors’, ‘110 connectors’, ‘2.8 connectors’, ‘Motorcycle connectors’, etc…

They are all based on the Sumitomo MTW 110 connector series.

Anyway, the 4-way female connector will mate with the one touch ECU, it won’t latch, as it doesn’t have the same latching mechanism as the proper connector.

However, because the row spacing and terminal pitch is slightly less than the pitch of the tabs on the ECU, the connector fit is tight enough, so that it won’t fall off.

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Post #417275 19th Apr 2015 2:36pm
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JimC



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Wow, an amazing and comprehensive reply! Far better that I could have hoped for. At least I've got a few options now for trying to locate this thing. I'll see what I can do and I'll report back with what I find.
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JimC



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Score! Two Rover friends came through with plugs from Discos! Now to carefully un-crimp the terminals and insert the appropriate colored wires! Thanks to all who helped.

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JimC



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Got this working. Scavenged a wire from the second connector and made a 4-terminal one. Soldered it in and I was good to go. I also had to get a switch because the moron previous owner had used a rear wiper switch with the button face swapped. It was even plugged into the rear wiper plug, so needless to say it didn't work. It does now!


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PaulMc



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Much tidier than previously Thumbs Up

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JimC



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And now I've got the spare connector if anyone needs it. Free shipping!
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Top work Thumbs Up Ray
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