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RED-DOT



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Interior/courtesy lights?
My interior lights have been very hit or miss and have now packed in all together. On door opening and switching to ON manually there is no difference.
I've done the fuses and breaker switches on the doors but was wondering if there is a relay or a known problem? Alarm is fine and 10AS "seems" OK. 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..
Post #390115 19th Jan 2015 9:19am
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JWL



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More than likely a poor earth in the roof, something like a corroded terminal that has eventually given up the ghost.
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HT Corris Grey
If the manual "on" switch makes no difference I'd almost be inclined to suspect a dodgy positive supply.

Please excuse me if I'm telling you something you already know, but there is a permanent live to the light and in order to make it come on the other side of it is earthed. In the "on" position that's a "manual" earth (I have a feeling it might just be straight to the roof actually) and when it's in "auto" it's earthed through the 10AS (and can do the fancy dimming stuff).

If the fault happens both in "on" and "auto" then that suggests that the problem is common to both of them, which puts it down to positive supply, bulb holder, bulb and switch.

I hope this is big enough to read, but it's all in dgardel's manual.



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Natlas



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I think they earth through the screws that hold the door switches in place, might be worth checking they are doing their job? 2.2 90 XS
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Post #390407 19th Jan 2015 9:44pm
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you're right, but only when the switch is in the "on" position, not when it's in the 10AS controlled door open position.
Post #390516 20th Jan 2015 12:47pm
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Cupboard wrote:
If the manual "on" switch makes no difference I'd almost be inclined to suspect a dodgy positive supply.

Please excuse me if I'm telling you something you already know, but there is a permanent live to the light and in order to make it come on the other side of it is earthed. In the "on" position that's a "manual" earth (I have a feeling it might just be straight to the roof actually) and when it's in "auto" it's earthed through the 10AS (and can do the fancy dimming stuff).

If the fault happens both in "on" and "auto" then that suggests that the problem is common to both of them, which puts it down to positive supply, bulb holder, bulb and switch.

I hope this is big enough to read, but it's all in dgardel's manual.



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Crikey, can anyone really understand that diagram? A lot of work for a light. Head torch or Maglite taped to Rear-view mirror should suffice. Unless you need good lighting for Dogging? Monsieur Le Grenadier

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blackwolf



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Grenadier wrote:
Crikey, can anyone really understand that diagram?


Yes, it's quite simple really!

You should see some of the other ones for the vehicle.
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Rolling with laughter

It's not that hard really. I'm not 100% sure what "Junction box-Battery" is, but basically you've got a +ve feed from the battery going to the 10AS, and then another +ve feed going to the interior light through Fuse 30 in the main under dash fuse box. From there, a purple cable is split 1, 2 or 3 ways for HT/90SW/110SW, through the lamp and to the switch.

There's then a -ve feed either straight from the battery (black, but it's actually straight to the roof) or from the 10AS (purple and white) depending on which was the switch goes.

In order to light up, something needs both a +ve and -ve supply to it, the +ve is always on assuming the fuse hasn't blown and connecting the -ve is what controls the light.
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