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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20480  
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K9F here has one, I run Genuine. A bit conflicting really as you'll hear no complaints from me with genuine or the ITG from Mal.
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13th Dec 2014 11:06am |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 
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'Conflicting opinions' is correct.....
Ultimately "Yes Steve is correct" I have been running with an ITG Filter since 2009 and to be perfectly honest had just about forgotten it was there. It has not given me any issues and I suppose good service. Would I buy again?....Yes probably as the vehicle was and still is a keeper. If you've no RAI or snorkel fitted you do get a nice discernible intake growl on take up as a result. Got mine from here..... https://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/s/itg-air-filters If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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13th Dec 2014 11:24am |
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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5111  
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I have a Piper Cross performance filter fitted; to be honest I do not feel I get any more improved performance than the genuine one that came fitted to the engine. However as K9F has already mentioned these type of filters are sort of fit and forget and I suppose over time they pay for themselves. Whether they improve performance, economy or anything else I am not so sure about.
Various ads say performance air filters improve HP, some stating by up to 30 horses, personally I find that hard to believe. All I can say is that paper filters are restrictive with air passage, whereas the material used in these aftermarket filters is far less restrictive and as all engines rely on air for combustion the more air and the easier it is for the engine to pull in that air I suppose the better the burn. |
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13th Dec 2014 11:45am |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610
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People 'claim' the oil medium used to catch the small particles in these type of filters have been known to contaminate the MAF sensor. Pete from BAS was carrying out some investigative work and was offering forum members (running his map) free MAF sensors in exchange for your old one. I took up on his offer (despite not having his map but another one) and after over two years of running with the filter there was no evidence of oil contamination on mine. Not really significant but I did bin my old map and move to his later on.
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic5611.h...maf+sensor Any HP gains (or losses) are indeed negligable and not noticed.  If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! Last edited by K9F on 13th Dec 2014 12:08pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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13th Dec 2014 12:04pm |
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| pannawonica Member Since: 21 Nov 2010 Location: Clackline Western Australia Posts: 568 
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You would need an engine the size of a small block Chevy too get 30 Bhp improvement with just an filter change. In the bull dust I would stick with genuine, you have got too ask yourself how these filters achieve this claimed greater airflow and at the expence of what.
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13th Dec 2014 12:08pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610
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What's bull dust? All we have is bullsh** over here!
 If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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13th Dec 2014 12:10pm |
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| CatherineF Member Since: 22 Nov 2014 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 762
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Ours has a snorkel fitted, so would you not bother?
Merlin are local to me, so was going to go and collect one |
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13th Dec 2014 12:30pm |
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| Iain Member Since: 09 Nov 2014 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 79 
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I ran one in my D2 TD5 for 25k and 2.5-3 years. Each year gave it a hoover, bit of a clean and a light oil if it needed it. Only used in the UK and with no harsh dusty conditions.
But... My car started running with a noticable loss of get up and go, did the usual checks with nanocom etc (I should have checked the air filter sooner) but the cause was the ITG filter foam parting from the metal frame work and then the foam tearing. Which gave me too much air hence the fault code and poor running, more importantly it gave me zero filtration. I fitted the ITG filter same time as a de-egr and de-cat so can't really say how much difference it alone made, but I will stick with genuine now unless on bigger engines or higher end tunes where it will make more of a difference. The ITG instructions use the words fit and forget, I disagree, you need to fit and check its condition regularly. My lessons learned anyway. |
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13th Dec 2014 12:34pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610
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Catherine the choice really is yours alone to make. Merlin were local to me too so I popped along and picked one up as well. As stated I would buy again!
Go quickly before someone puts you off would be my advice. (**Edit** Someone beat me to it  ) Mine is a 08 2.4 Puma and it was one of the very first of a long line of modifications....I now have decat and EGR closed map and I had indeed fitted and forgotten with no issues whatsoever over 5 years. If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!
Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! |
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13th Dec 2014 12:34pm |
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| CatherineF Member Since: 22 Nov 2014 Location: Wiltshire Posts: 762
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Thank's K9.
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13th Dec 2014 12:47pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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Same issue for me with one - wouldn't fit one in an off road vehicle. |
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13th Dec 2014 8:48pm |
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| Fatboy Slim Member Since: 04 Feb 2008 Location: Bridgend Posts: 1006
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Waste of good money. Put genuine paper ones in it, at least you can bang the worst of the muck out on the side of the road if you ever need to.....
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13th Dec 2014 9:28pm |
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| Cupboard Member Since: 21 Mar 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 2971 
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This thread may be of interest:
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic21125....ce+filters I can't comment on the different types, but I have experienced the difference that a new filter makes compared to just blowing one out. They're so cheap in the grand scheme of things I think it's worth changing pretty regularly. We had no end of problems a little while back with our generator which eventually turned out to just be the air filter requiring changing, and we've noticed the general improvements in running in changing air filters more regularly than you're "supposed" to. They're not on the 500 hours service for our tractors (I have a feeling they're actually only a 2000 hours service item) but at about £40 for the pair we reckon it's worth doing for the improved economy and performance. |
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14th Dec 2014 12:51am |
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| RED-DOT Member Since: 29 Jun 2009 Location: stirling Posts: 2363 
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Mmmm i think i fitted one.... 2008 RS4 gone, 123d M Sport, and a Puma 90 XS..
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14th Dec 2014 10:09am |
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