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landroverdiver



Member Since: 13 Jun 2009
Location: Renfrewshire
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Non starter!
Hi

I have a 2004 Td5.

So today,tried to start it this morning and for the first half dozen tries all i got was a clicking noise, then 7th attempt cranked and fired.

Tonight it turned over fine, but wouldn't fire. I noticed every time I turned the ignition on the temp gauge needle went right off the scale (the engine was warm but had been off for a while). I left it for a while, went back and it started normally. The temp gauge behaved properly this time.

I will checkthe battery connections I the morning, just in case they need tightening and perhaps this would explain the clicking, but not starting?

Friend of mine with a Disco Td5 suggested oil in the loom can cause some funny things to happen, I checked the ECU connection under the drivers seat and this is fine.

Any assistance gratefully received.

I don't have access to any kind of diagnostic tool to find out if there are any fault codes.

Thanks

Mike
Post #345924 17th Jul 2014 10:12pm
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custom90



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As you already mentioned check the battery connections, those symptoms I have had to with my Puma.
Post #345933 17th Jul 2014 10:53pm
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JWL



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England 2002 Defender 110 Td5 SW Coniston Green
Double check your earths, but the most likely candidate will be the starter solonoid either eroded away or contaminated with oil/diesel/or just general crud. If you look down the back corner of the engine on the inlet manifold side, check to see if there's evidence of dampness on the convoluted sheathing on the loom wiring to the starter, it may be that your fuel pressure regulator is leaking which eventually finds its way into the solonoid, the same can occour from the half moon on the back of the rocker cover gasket.
It is possible to take out the plunger on the starter with it still mounted on the vehicle but do make sure you disconnect the battery or take the live feed wire off the starter motor(don't ask me how I know but it was highly entertaining for a minute or two). You can undo the solonoid cover with the 3 x 10mm head set screws then pull out the plunger, taking care of the return spring. Spray the inside contacts, one each side, with contact cleaner and clean the brass part of the plunger. Put it all back together and enjoy trouble free starting.
Post #345934 17th Jul 2014 10:56pm
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mk1collector



Member Since: 17 Sep 2009
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England 2004 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Bonatti Grey
Mine just started doing this in the last few days so I'll be following jwl's avice in the next few days Thumbs Up
Cheers
Ray
Post #345938 17th Jul 2014 11:15pm
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Waldo



Member Since: 18 Jul 2010
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Sounds very much like the starter solenoid to me.

I fixed the problem with one of these kits.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LANDROVER-DEFEND...3a922fa7a5

No problems since Defender 90 XS TD5 (03 Reg)
Post #345986 18th Jul 2014 9:16am
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landroverdiver



Member Since: 13 Jun 2009
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It looks decidedly grubby in the general area described, I have ordered the repair kit and will give it a go, together with a good clean.

I will let you know how I get on, thanks for the help
Post #346116 18th Jul 2014 5:49pm
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ChrisJ



Member Since: 12 Nov 2013
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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Corris Grey
Another vote for the starter solenoid.

I had this about two months ago, ordered on of the above kits and it's been spot on since.

It's an utter b*****d to get the bottom nut off the starter but stick with it! it took me an hour to get it off and 10 minutes to swap over the solenoid and put the starter back on.
Post #346278 19th Jul 2014 2:52pm
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Ruari



Member Since: 10 Dec 2013
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Hi Mike

I'm based in Dalry so not too far from you. I've got a Hawkeye if you need diagnostics.
Also got various spare parts sitting on my shelf.
Where was the clicking coming from, under your seat or engine bay?
If it's the engine bay I 2nd what has been said before starter motor solenoid. Fiddly but quite easy to change / service. I found it easier to remove the complete starter to change the solenoid contacts.

Best of luck

Ruari
Post #348221 29th Jul 2014 12:20pm
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
I went through this with my TD5. Changed the starter solenoid contacts that came with a kit. This did help, but failed again. I ended up with a new starter. 1999 Defender TD5 110

Regards
John M0VAZ
Econet Station 48 no clock
Post #348241 29th Jul 2014 3:04pm
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landroverdiver



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Thanks guys, I bought the repair kit but won't get the chance to fit it this trip. The clicking was coming from the engine bay, however for the last 3 days or so it has behaved perfectly! I am heading back to Oz on Friday night and apparently painting the front gates and railings are more important than my beloved, so I fitting the kit will have to wait.
Post #348299 29th Jul 2014 8:34pm
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Unclebigbad



Member Since: 13 Jul 2014
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Hi all - I'm a newbie here, so sorry to drag this one up again !
I've got a couple of Landies in the garage (does a 64 Series 2a count?) but the 54 plate TD5 has the clicking starter motor problem.

Does anybody know if the repairkitsuk bloke is still doing the solenoid contact kits ? I've mailed and called him a couple of times but I haven't heard back. He may well be on holiday but wondered if any of you knew if he was still selling the repair kits ?

Any other recommended suppliers would be appreciated too - it's becoming more of a daily bind than an odd mishap now.

Cheers up front Smile
BigBad
Post #348725 1st Aug 2014 8:16am
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diesel_jim



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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 110 Td5 SW Epsom Green
There's a brand spanking new Td5 starter for sale in the for sale section (unless it's already gone)

£75 I think. worth it by the time you've faffed about rebuilding yours.



edit: Looks like the starter is still there <----

plus a host of other useful Td5 spares!
Post #348729 1st Aug 2014 8:37am
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mk1collector



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England 2004 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Bonatti Grey
Repairkitsuk are still going. I got a set last week from them but I did buy through ebay. I got the kit next day because I ordered before 2pm
Post #348757 1st Aug 2014 11:34am
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landroverdiver



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Yes I can confirm they are still going, I bought the kit from ebay, received the next day, but just didn't have the time to fit it.
Post #349120 3rd Aug 2014 3:36am
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Will.I.AM



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 130 Td5 HCPU Kaikoura Stone
i had exactly the same as this and it was electrical contacts in the seat box, i changed both relays as a precaution adn then cleaned and oiled the relay contacts and redid the earth stright to the battery, it now starts first time.
Post #349444 4th Aug 2014 11:49am
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