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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731   
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I have the new Alisport from BAS and it went in smooth and snug. Results are impressive too. Also IF anything were to go wrong I'm certain Pete would sort it out, as would all the site sponsors
Matt Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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20th Jun 2014 8:50pm |
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| Weston18 Member Since: 20 Oct 2013 Location: Norhamptonshire Posts: 93  
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Late reply but this explains what goes on.
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20th Jun 2014 9:06pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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It should perhaps be noted that the test in the video doesn't cover everything. Although the black intercooler does better standing still, it is completely in the open air. In my 110, it's "hot-boxed" (insulated and heated) between the radiator and aircon. It can only really lose heat if the outside environment is cooler, i.e. sanding still without airflow it would probably be pretty useless whatever colour it was. Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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20th Jun 2014 9:29pm |
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| big steve Member Since: 24 Dec 2009 Location: hertfordshire Posts: 2456  
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Iv had a disco 2 cooler just bought a second hand td5 cooler for my bro in laws 2.4 and I have rad and cooler on the 3.2 all from allisport and can honestly say Iv had no issues at all
Steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs 3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit ashcroft atb in transfer box 6 speed auto in build |
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20th Jun 2014 9:49pm |
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| K9F Member Since: 12 Nov 2009 Location: Bournemouth Posts: 9610 
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There was a time where Alisport were rumoured to be having difficulties but that is not necessarily the case now. Maybe the one you got was from the period I posted the following.......My sentiments at the end remain the same today.
If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!! Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!! Last edited by K9F on 21st Jun 2014 10:57am. Edited 1 time in total |
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21st Jun 2014 12:03am |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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And how about this one? If the quality is as per usual Entreq standards, it would beat anything else on the market. So are there members on here who have installed this one, and can comment?
http://www.entreq.de/technics/heating-and-...4-td5.html  Click image to enlarge A bit  , but interesting that there are several updates on Entreq's website, notably the Airflow Kit for the Puma 2.4 is back, even if it is clearly stated that it is not in stock yet, but after the item had a long absence from the Entreq website, it is now back on again... I know from Olaf that he most likely has found a SS shop which is able and ready to produce these intercooler pipes at the required Entreq quality standards, so I am watching this with interest too.
http://www.entreq.de/technics/heating-and-...-tdci.html You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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21st Jun 2014 4:24am |
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| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069
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Talk to Pete surely he would know the best inter cooler to match your remap The worst thing you could do is buy one that is not optimal for your remap |
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21st Jun 2014 5:30am |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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I would imagine that the performance differences between Alisport, Chiptech, Nakatanenga and Entreq (perhaps not Britpart...) are fairly minor. I know my recent Alisport seems good quality (the visible welding is anyway) and I would bet the others are as well. I nearly bought Chiptech as they are more local and I was also concerned about the rumours about Alisport's problems but I can't see any evidence now. My main reasons for going for Alisport from BAS were that Pete has also provided the remap and turbo and they should all work together, and that he was involved in designing the intercooler with Alisport so I assume it is the most developed design (the others all look the same). Now for the cliché... "each to their own"
 Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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21st Jun 2014 6:23am |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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Just to even the playing field about the whole black/silver discussion, when the engine is hot and the vehicle is at standstill, a large amount of heat is radiating from the radiator and aircon - much more than the stationary air in the intercooler. In this case, perhaps having a nice heat absorbing black coating on the intercooler isn't the best idea...
Go on, now flame me Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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21st Jun 2014 7:09am |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558
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if stood still on tickover the vicous fan is still turning (slowly if below temp ) pulling air through rad,intercooler,aircon
black/silver difference ? I would say small all the cores are made by someone else anyway , it really comes down to standard of welding and fittings welded in the right place , and end chamber being right shape and size for air flow cast or moulded end chambers would be better than welded ones as they can be cast or moulded with rounded corners , but the price of reflects in the demand for them , cast or moulded would cost a lot more |
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21st Jun 2014 8:05am |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5792 
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The alive one has cast ends. This helped my choice.
Andy |
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21st Jun 2014 8:42am |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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^^ The Ultimate? This one here?
http://www.alivetuning.com/alive-boutique/...duct_id=90 Is also made in Germany , just like the Entreq one (I presume), and from the pictures this one from Alive looks identical to the Entreq one.... You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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21st Jun 2014 8:53am |
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| Fatboy Slim Member Since: 04 Feb 2008 Location: Bridgend Posts: 1006 
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Looks a proper good bit of kit that, wonder if it fits A/C models???
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21st Jun 2014 9:02am |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5792
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Yep. It does. Got one on mine
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21st Jun 2014 9:06am |
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