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custom90



Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
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Does anyone have the P/N for the hi / low. Plastic 'tripod' cover?
The P/N I've found before appears to show no suppliers for the P/N that comes up for it.

Last time I looked at mine a few years ago it was broken and would not locate well, how I do not know and I certainly was not the one not who broke it! I had to use a little silicone to keep it in place then at the time because I couldn't find the replacement part needed and had to put it back together asap.

Is it only available with a complete assembly or am I missing something? $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธโ›ฝ๏ธ๐Ÿ›ข๏ธโš™๏ธ๐Ÿงฐ๐Ÿ’ช
Post #776777 9th Jun 2019 12:20am
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
UCB500150 although some parts suppliers give a very odd and misleading description (child seat bracket Shocked )

https://www.lrworkshop.com/diagrams/land-r...ange_45150
Post #776780 9th Jun 2019 7:28am
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custom90



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Thank-you. Yes, that was what I found with that part number. In the end I couldnโ€™t find the actual part anywhere, admittedly I havenโ€™t looked in every nook and cranny on the net but a basic search proved fruitless.

Might have to Ask Dan @ Duckworth parts for info Monday. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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Post #776793 9th Jun 2019 11:18am
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custom90



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Update, Dan managed to track the part down. I'm not sure what exact P/N, likely the same one as above.
The description is however, very confusing. No idea why that might be.
Price is around ยฃ10 not too bad, it's rather annoying how someone managed to break it though when it needn't have been.

Dan has always been successful finding these things that I haven't and always been upmost reliable.
Highly recommended if you are looking for Genuine parts. Thumbs Up $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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Post #777147 11th Jun 2019 9:40pm
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custom90



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Slightly Off Topic here but the part I mentioned above arrived.
It certainly looks correct, in fact Iโ€™m sure it is.
Curiously, looking at the label it still mentions Child seat adaptor or similar.
I can only but assume it may be a dual purpose part.



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Iโ€™ve got the WSM paperwork and the spacers now as well.
So when I get around to it I think Iโ€™ll use a liberal coating of White Lithium spray grease on the assemble as the manual suggests. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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jst



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 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
just put gearbox back in the 130 and selection is harder than it should be, esp to 3rd. in fact it doesn't return to centre in neutral if i tighten the torex screws right down on the gearstick. my 11plate doesn't have these fitted. what are they doing exactly, stopping the diagonal torex from torqueing down too far when they hit the insert? thus reducing the preload on the ball joint? Cheers

James
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
I think they just limit the lateral movement of the lever housing, that's all. In theory you need to use a locating device when refitting the lever, although I've never found it necessary.
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jst



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maybe thats where i am going wrong, locating device when fitting lever in the ball socket or when fitting the housing to the gearbox? Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop
Post #866820 11th Nov 2020 7:43pm
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Housing to box. The tool holds the gear lever in the correct position to align the housing on the box as the bolts are tightened. I usually pinch up the housing, check for gear selection, and adjust and repeat as necessary until everything feels good, and have never had a problem. Screenshot of the WSM below:


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The tools is simply a plastic thing that clips round the base of the gear lever:


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Post #866826 11th Nov 2020 8:11pm
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Minch90



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Thanks Martin Thumbs Up

Just done this and the guide is fab, my only hiccup was figuring out that the hi-low linkage ball joint is a push in to remove!!

Looking down the holes it was amazing how much they seemed to be out of line, so I can see why the collar would help.

Shifting already better, put loads of lithium grease everywhere too.

Carpet almost looks flat as well Rolling with laughter 2.4TDCI 90 - everyday brilliance
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Niels906



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Never mind
Sorry, didnโ€™t read the last persons reply before posting.
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giacomo.m



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blackwolf wrote:
Housing to box. The tool holds the gear lever in the correct position to align the housing on the box as the bolts are tightened. I usually pinch up the housing, check for gear selection, and adjust and repeat as necessary until everything feels good, and have never had a problem. Screenshot of the WSM below:


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The tools is simply a plastic thing that clips round the base of the gear lever:


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Thank you blackwolf,
but which bolts are you talking about ?
those of the aluminum box to the gearbox or the 4 torx screws ?
also the adjustment of the gear lever must be done with the assembly of the 2 spacer bushes ?
Giacomo
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
The screws identified in the diagram in step 45 in the WSM extract.

> the adjustment of the gear lever must be done with the assembly of the 2 spacer bushes ?

That's the idea. Thumbs Up
Post #967241 10th Oct 2022 11:57am
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giacomo.m



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thank you
but the problem is to find the 308-561 tool, and to know how it is assembled and used ....
Giacomo
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
blackwolf wrote:
... In theory you need to use a locating device when refitting the lever, although I've never found it necessary.

blackwolf wrote:
...I usually pinch up the housing, check for gear selection, and adjust and repeat as necessary until everything feels good, and have never had a problem.


The plastic tool really isn't necessary.
Post #967252 10th Oct 2022 2:50pm
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