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If there's an option better than Wolf's please do say. I'd rather buy quality than save on price by buying something lesser as I'm wanting the vehicle to be a keeper so I plan to have any extras I buy for a long time. Recommendations on rim and tyre sizes also appreciated
| Lambley Member Since: 20 Apr 2013 Location: Mid Devon Posts: 1435   
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Hi, if you're going to go for 265's then Wolf's might be a little narrow, I think they're all 16 x 6.5 and for a 265 ideally you'd be looking at 7 or 8 inch width, so maybe go for a good quality modular. As for Duratrac's, I've got them on mine (265's on 7" Zu rims) and they are great, quiet on tarmac, good in snow and mud, look chunky and give good levels of grip on anything I've driven on so far. I'd recommend them.
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22nd May 2014 12:53pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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Self explanatory.....
 Click image to enlarge You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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22nd May 2014 2:21pm |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6638 
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I would go narrower than 265 (i.e. 235) for a dedicated winter tyre, although having said that I'm a hypocrite and have 265 BFG ATs on the 90 and find them excellent in the winter
 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW |
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22nd May 2014 3:09pm |
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| jimbob7 Member Since: 06 Jul 2013 Location: uk Posts: 2055 |
As above, narrow tyres,which are better in the snow. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
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22nd May 2014 3:23pm |
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| 90mojo Member Since: 19 Mar 2014 Location: UK Posts: 175
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Thanks for the prompt (and friendly as always) replies,
Was beginning to think I was overdoing it with 265's - brainblock as I'm on 235's with the Boosts - So, errmmm 235's on Wolfs? |
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22nd May 2014 3:56pm |
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| Lou Sparts Member Since: 15 Apr 2012 Location: Kent Posts: 1501 
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I see from your profile that your defender is new, I would be inclined to see how it goes on the factory fit tyres before spending a lump of cash on something you may not need.
As above thumbs up for BFG A/Ts I have used them for years on different Defenders both 265 and 235 and never had cause for complaint. 2005 Td5 90 XS Steve |
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22nd May 2014 3:58pm |
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| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069
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Cooper snows or nokians, 235's
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22nd May 2014 3:58pm |
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| jimbob7 Member Since: 06 Jul 2013 Location: uk Posts: 2055 |
True/\/\/\,winter tyre's have a maximum operating temp of +7deg.C,its been very mild this year and fitting winter tyres would not have been worth it,the all season,all terrain, standard fit Conti's are fine in all but the most extreme cold,snowy conditions. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5. |
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22nd May 2014 4:48pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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^^ max operating temp of 7°C? Not really true. The tire industry for the last 10 years has discovered the ever again used argument that summer tires rubber hardens below 7°C and then become less efficient. Winter tires are supposedly a softer rubber/silicone mix which remains flexible below this 7°C... How much truth and how much sales pitch in that statement, I don't know... But there is nobody who says that winter tires would have a max operating temp of 7°C, they will function well at 10 or 15 or 20°C... Probably will loose a bit more thread at 20°C than a summer tire would, but that's it as to effects of running them in the summer. In my opinion the main advantage in the winter of winter tires are the multiple incisions in the thread which make them adhere better in the snow, and they usually make also an excellent rain tire.
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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22nd May 2014 4:56pm |
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| jimbob7 Member Since: 06 Jul 2013 Location: uk Posts: 2055 |
Softer compound winter tyres will wear quicker than usual (or melt) at higher operating temps,hence the recommended 7deg.C maximum operating temps AND slower speed ratings.
The softer compound winter tyres allows the tyre to move about and get up to operating temperature,its the heat that gives tyres grip,ask any motorcyclist,nothing worse for grip than a cold tyre.Overheating also damages tyres,which is the main reason for not using winter tyres when it's warm. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5. Last edited by jimbob7 on 22nd May 2014 5:11pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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22nd May 2014 5:01pm |
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| ken Member Since: 18 Aug 2009 Location: Banging Birds with my bitches !! Posts: 4328
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Normal car on Winters in the summer = slides and poo braking
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22nd May 2014 5:06pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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Couple questions/comments to above statement.... wear quicker,... agree, that is what I said too. or melt?  any hard litterature to subtantiate that? (never heard of a melting winter tire if normally used in summer)
hence the recommended 7°C max operating temps.... where can I read that? slower speed rating... speed rating just depends on how much money you pay, you have winter tires with same rating as summer tires By the way, the Swiss are no fools when it comes to safety, but are quite pragmatic too, hence the common sense recommendation here in a country where virtually every car has a set of summer wheels/tires and a set of winter wheels/tires, is that winter tires should not be run down to the legal 1.6mm thread depth, but only to 3.0mm, and if you get to about that thread depth at the end of a winter season, then run them a last summer season as at about 3mm thread depth they will be fine for one more summer, and then come October buy a new set of winter tires... So you effectively save your summer wheels/tires one season then while still getting the last acceptable use out of your winter tires. Which on dealer recommendation is effectively what we are doing with my wife's VW this summer, her summer wheels/tires stay in storage, and a last summer season on her winter tires which after 8 years are down to 4mm now, and then new winter tires before the next winter.... Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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22nd May 2014 5:34pm |
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| 90mojo Member Since: 19 Mar 2014 Location: UK Posts: 175
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 Really wanted to get some useful advice about what Wolf wheels go with std studs I've got
Know I should've said 235's
4WD's I've had before pull away really well in the snow (LR/Isuzu/Subaru/Ford)......but don't stop very well Help
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22nd May 2014 7:27pm |
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| 90mojo Member Since: 19 Mar 2014 Location: UK Posts: 175
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Did I say that out loud?
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22nd May 2014 8:23pm |
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