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Pickles



Member Since: 26 May 2013
Location: Melbourne
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Australia 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Keswick Green
How do you charge your battery?
I have a C Tek battery charger which specifically says it can charge with the battery in the car with leads connected etc, and I have the "easy connect" leads to make it easier.
However, reading the Puma's owner's handbook, it says that the battery has to be removed from the vehicle to be charged.
How do you guys charge your Puma's battery should the need arise?
Thanks, Pickles.
Post #299210 15th Jan 2014 9:51pm
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mrd1990



Member Since: 16 Aug 2012
Location: Wales
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Wales 2000 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Epsom Green
The battery should be well-ventilated if you're charging from dead to full, leaving the battery in place is fine as long as you leave the seat and lid off. Thumbs Up
Post #299220 15th Jan 2014 10:14pm
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Leenorthants



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United Kingdom 
My alternator does a good job!
Post #299230 15th Jan 2014 10:41pm
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JWL



Member Since: 26 Oct 2011
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England 2002 Defender 110 Td5 SW Coniston Green
As above, went to it this morning and discovered I'd left my heated mirrors on overnight, I was distracted by my annoying boys last night. Luckily I have them wired up to my auxillary battery and they had pulled it down to just under 9V. About an hours worth of driving throughout the day and everything is back to normal.
Post #299243 16th Jan 2014 12:08am
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BigWheels



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Location: Somerset
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
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Post #299248 16th Jan 2014 12:35am
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ericvv



Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
Just put it on the C-tek with battery in place and without taking the seat or seatcover off. Connect the C-tek via the 12S plug, simple as that. A search will get this for instance....
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic20342.html?highlight=ctek

And by the way, your battery box should be ventilated. If you look under your chassis, you will see a plactic ventilation pipe hanging from somewhere under the battery box. How do I know? Embarassed
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic14789.html

Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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Post #299256 16th Jan 2014 5:04am
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grafty99



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Post #299268 16th Jan 2014 7:37am
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blackwolf



Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
ericvv wrote:
...

And by the way, your battery box should be ventilated. If you look under your chassis, you will see a plactic ventilation pipe hanging from somewhere under the battery box. How do I know? Embarassed
http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic14789.html

Eric


The vent pipe is actually from the battery itself, rather than the battery box. Just one more reason for using a genuine replacement battery when the need arises.

A CTEK charger should be fine charging the battery whilst the battery is in place and still connected. Some of the less intelligent old-fashioned "brute force and ignorance" chargers will make the battery gas, so disconnect and either remove from the vehicle or at least make sure that the vehicle is very well ventilated, also loosen or remove the caps on the cells of the battery. Do not underestimate the power of a hydrogen explosion!

Many years ago the battery on a large Volvo BM loading shovel exploded as I was starting the machine, and it was very spectacular! Fortunately no-one was nearby and I was protected by the vehicle, but bits of battery travelled about 30 yards and everything was drenched in acid. Not fun at all! On that occasion the battery wasn't on charge but had been recently, and the explosion seemed to have been initiated by ice which had formed on the battery, although to this day we're not quite sure exactly how it happened. A similar explosion inside a Defender doesn't bear thinking about - it would certainly cause very extensive damage to both the vehicle and the occupant and I imagine that both would be write-offs.
Post #299286 16th Jan 2014 9:42am
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Supacat



Member Since: 16 Oct 2012
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
Just glad mine isn't left hand drive!
Post #299305 16th Jan 2014 11:46am
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ericvv



Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
Supacat, are you sure of that? You RH drivers run the risk of getting electrocuted by bad contacts in all the electric connections under your drivers seats. Lucas, etc. you know.... Whistle You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
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Post #299323 16th Jan 2014 12:26pm
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ZeDefender



Member Since: 15 Sep 2011
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Germany 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Baltic Blue
Adding to that, if the battery(ies) beneath my seat explodes, I will be protected by the seat box cover, seat and my ample posterior, as I am ejected to safety (James Bond-style) through the ridiculously flimsy roof. From my parachute high above, I will be able to watch the rest of the vehicle slowly dissolve... Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
Post #299338 16th Jan 2014 12:58pm
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Laurie



Member Since: 22 Feb 2008
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England 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Bonatti Grey
JWL wrote:
As above, went to it this morning and discovered I'd left my heated mirrors on overnight, I was distracted by my annoying boys last night. Luckily I have them wired up to my auxillary battery and they had pulled it down to just under 9V. About an hours worth of driving throughout the day and everything is back to normal.

Why aren't they wired to the ign./aux. side so they go off with the key? 
Post #299341 16th Jan 2014 1:19pm
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JWL



Member Since: 26 Oct 2011
Location: Hereford
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England 2002 Defender 110 Td5 SW Coniston Green
Because I put them in, my decision to run them off a permanent live, but not off the primary battery so, as they did yesterday morning, when they get left on through my incompetence then I can still start and drive away, giving myself a kick up the rear to pay more attention.
Post #299344 16th Jan 2014 1:27pm
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K9F



Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Due to the fact my Defender gets irregular use I am regularly topping up my battery with a charger which can be irksome. I am thinking of a permanent fit of one of these smaller discreet chargers and an aircraft grade electrical connector on the side of the seat box to connect it to the mains. The positive charging lead could also be hard wired through a fuse on my Blue Sea and the negative through a pushbutton illuminated switch to prevent backfeeding the charger when not in use. Connect the unit, push the button and away you go.

Unit.
http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/battery-char...4E4F4E4526

12 Volt 20 Amp Carling Swith.
http://www.force4.co.uk/10278/Carling-Swit...-Line.html If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!


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Post #299669 17th Jan 2014 5:16pm
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ZeDefender



Member Since: 15 Sep 2011
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Germany 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Baltic Blue
Good idea - and just fit a diode to prevent back-feeding perhaps? Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
Post #299673 17th Jan 2014 5:28pm
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