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Dave-H



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Simple route sound improvement?
Nothing too bad about my current [Standard] ICE set up ... but looking to improve the sound quality a tad without fitting bigger speakers, sub, etc,etc.. So ....

Are there 10 cm speakers out there that will give a much improved sound quality over the standard fit, But still using the LR radio? Could do with a bit more bass, and a less high tinny'ish sound.

Are there better tweeters to fit top of dash, or is it better to just disconnect those? [They sound worse of all!]

I know Steve loves his Kenwoods, and many others rate Focals Razz ... But just as a 'speaker only' upgrade, which gives the best all round sound? Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant.
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Go Beyond



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In my opinion, the best 'simple' upgrade is a powered sub fitted to the rear of the cubby box.

I know it's not as easy as simply changing the existing speakers (and you said without fitting a sub) but 'bang for buck' it'll give you the most improvement
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jimbob7



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Which LR radio is it?If they still use the one made by Siemens VDO an empty space in the dash will sound better,you can upgrade 4 inch speakers quite easily and cheaply And there's always H.U on sale at Halfords anorl,which are better and more reliable than Siemens Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
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carrotbay



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I wanted to do the same without too much faff.

I did however end up with one of these (Kenwood KSC-SW11) mounted on the back of the cubby box (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KENWOOD-KSC-SW11...0779678168)

I also replaced my rear speakers with some Focal PC100s. Still haven't done the fronts as sound now is pretty good. When I get round to it they will be replaced with Focal KRS100s.

It was the sub that made all the difference and I only did the rears as one of them was playing up. 2008 Defender 110 XS SW - M57N2 / 6HP28X
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Martin
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Question is, Kenwood or Alpine sub? Kenwood is about £35 cheaper - it's a bit less than your link here: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Kenwood-KSC-SW11-U...B00BO8O9XQ  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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I've got no experience of the Alpine sub. The kenwood one was recommended from another forum user and I've been really impressed with it. 2008 Defender 110 XS SW - M57N2 / 6HP28X
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Here's a link to a Kenwood Sub install .. http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic24922.html 2008 Defender 110 XS SW - M57N2 / 6HP28X
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Martin
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There have been lots of recommendations of the Alpine too, the Kenwood appears to have an inbuilt amp though, so a neater install. Hmmmmm  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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You know which to choose Martin. Whistle
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Martin
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Buzz off you Razz  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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Oooo and Merry Christmas to you too! Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter


As others have mentioned a sub even a small active one will give you more improvement over just a speaker change.
The speaker change is a close runner up though, from changing tweeers all you'll get is better high tones and clarity.
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Martin wrote:
There have been lots of recommendations of the Alpine too, the Kenwood appears to have an inbuilt amp though, so a neater install. Hmmmmm


Pioneer make active sub's too. This one is an interesting new technology.
http://www.carsoundsandsecurity.co.uk/store/ts-wh500a/ http://defender90xs.blogspot.co.uk/
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To answer the OP's question, i should think any decent 4" speakers from a quality manufacturer would do the job perfectly. Just a question of budget - buy the best you can afford. Thumbs Up
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Dave-H



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We definitely are not going sub route .. It's speaker upgrade only... Already got far too many 'additional' wiring looms Whistle

So more recommendations please guys ....... Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant.
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Got to be honest, the sound from the stereo today when I played it for the 1st time was pants!
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