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easydeluxe



Member Since: 18 Nov 2013
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Belgium 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Epsom Green
Puma clutch gearbox...drives me crazy!
Hi all.
My 2008 90 had a "rattly" clutch when I purchased it in june with less than 40K miles on it.
I had a new clutch fitted (land rover?) and I am NOT happy with the outcome. The gearbox has become crunchy and I feel like the clutch doesn't go "deep" enough. It just feels like it doesn't clutch enough if that makes sense?
Further more the clutch pedal has a lot of travel before it actually engages the clutch pump. This sounds like the system needs a bleed, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
Now it just doesn't drive well and it really drives me crazy to the point I want to sell the car.
My former Defender was a 2005 TD5 and the mechanic says I can't expect the TD4 to shift as good as the TD5 and that the TD4 is a big step backward and that it is full of plastic linkages etc...
But the other TD4's I drove are much nicer to shift than mine.
So now I am looking for THE specialist to take care of my truck. And I don't mind traveling for that.
Who can put my truck right?
thx,
G
Post #289150 10th Dec 2013 1:47pm
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zone30



Member Since: 07 Sep 2012
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Belgium 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 X-Tech LE Nara Bronze
Alanius in Zoersel: http://www.goudengids.be/alanius-zoersel-2980/

There's "the Rob" from Herentals, and GRX in Zottegem, but Alanius is the closest and the only one I had real dealings with (others I know from reputation).

Give him my regards if you decide to use them!
Post #289153 10th Dec 2013 2:02pm
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
The Puma gearbox and clutch do have issues, but when working should work every bit as well and probably better than the Td5 setup, so I am afraid you mechanic is misleading you. Generally the MT82 box has a better change than the R380 (which is really a bit of a dog), and most of the Puma issues are concerned either with the early clutch driven plates (the springs fail) or backlash in the driveline which causes a clunk and snatch on changing gear.

It does indeed sound as though your operating mechanism is not disengaging the clutch fully, as though it has air in it. Do you know that the job was done properly, and do you know the quality of parts fitted? If I needed a new clutch at the moment I woudl only get a main dealer, or a very trusted independent to do it (actually I'd probably do it myself) because I'd want to know exactly what quality of components had been fitted.

My Puma has always had a nicer and better gearchange than my Td5 Disco2.
Post #289155 10th Dec 2013 2:33pm
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easydeluxe



Member Since: 18 Nov 2013
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Belgium 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Epsom Green
thx. I hope it gets sorted...
Post #289157 10th Dec 2013 2:36pm
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spudfan



Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
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My Land Rover replaced clutch is rattling too. I spoke to an independent and he said he would use a "Valeo" replacement.Considering that Land Rover replaced the origional clutch at two years of age, three years and 30,000 miles ago with an origional Land Rover part surely non genuine part can't be any worse. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
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Post #289229 10th Dec 2013 6:29pm
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easydeluxe



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Belgium 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Epsom Green
mine got replaced by the kit from ashcroft, don't know what they use?
Post #289237 10th Dec 2013 6:43pm
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theorangebandit



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Your pedal travel sounds like it could need bleeding mate. Check the clutc. Oil level it may have dropped. pedal travel, is normaly a fluid issue. Sometimes its the mechanical arm/bearing that hasnt been fitted correctly. 1st step check fluid 2nd step, bleed clutch pedal. nice easy job slave cylinder is very easy to access
Post #289259 10th Dec 2013 7:46pm
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munch90



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Slave cyl is concentric bearing type ,On the puma (cylinder and bearing in one unit) and is inside bell housing so box out to change it .but it should have been changed at same time as clutch anyway .. I would give bleeding it a go .. Sometimes clutches can been a right pain to bleed even have to back bleed sometimes to get all air out
Post #289267 10th Dec 2013 8:01pm
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Phantom



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theorangebandit

10th Dec 2013 7:46pm
Your pedal travel sounds like it could need bleeding mate. Check the clutc. Oil level it may have dropped. pedal travel, is normaly a fluid issue. Sometimes its the mechanical arm/bearing that hasnt been fitted correctly. 1st step check fluid 2nd step, bleed clutch pedal. nice easy job slave cylinder is very easy to access


Not sure that's 100% true, the slave is behind the thrust bearing in the gearbox bell housing.................
Post #289268 10th Dec 2013 8:03pm
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CARMARK2014



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United Kingdom 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
My puma clutch as just been replaced at 39000 miles.
Post #293810 28th Dec 2013 11:16pm
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