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bell-auto-services



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No, seriousley.

If you have had the injectors programed and all the set up afer the VCV and injector codes manualy entered then I doubt the air flow meter is faulty as it shouldhave then failed the pilot correction process on
setup.

Are you sure that the "rattle"is not just hard load injector noise as you do change gear very early and work the engine loading it ?

Pete


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Post #302678 27th Jan 2014 7:34pm
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munch90



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munch90 wrote:
does it run fine if you use it everyday?


does it ?
Post #302682 27th Jan 2014 7:36pm
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Caterham



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my sanity Laughing

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was born mad Shocked

I use it most days....its my daily runner (except for when I put a few miles on the wifes car) not really noticed any difference in that respect but first thing in the morning when cold is often when its at its best?
Post #302684 27th Jan 2014 7:40pm
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bm52



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Watching with interest as mine is very similar.
A very experienced diesel technicial has advised me to run 2 tanks with injector cleaner to see whether it clears it up, just finished 1 tank with Wynns. Next week I will add Forte when it arrives in the post.
Then we will see if it has made any difference, I suspect it won't.

Mine also runs smooth especially when cold.
Has heaps of power and torque. Thanks BAS.
Sometimes idles well when hot other times 'hunts/surges' or very uneven tickover when hot.
Quite frustratting BM52
Post #302696 27th Jan 2014 7:56pm
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Caterham



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bm52....

check out the other post (do any other tdci's do this)

hopefully the cleaner will help - however I've run neat on Redex for the last 2 months and its done nothing (ok not quite neat)......

vcv, MAP replaced inject / pump learns, new filters etc and underneath I can kind of tell its running sweet as nut but then this pain in the As* problem buts in and spoils all the fun????

working on the MAF and wiring at the moment and will let you know how I get on.

good luck,
Post #302698 27th Jan 2014 7:59pm
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Just had 4 yr service with all filters and oils changed, I have also cleaned the MAF and MAP

My MAP looked like thi, still not spanky clean but a lot better, I also have had an electronic EGR close for the last 12k miles



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Post #302708 27th Jan 2014 8:21pm
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Caterham



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Pete

Apologies as I didn't fully read your post previously.

I've got to the point I'm really not sure but I believe / hope all is now sorted but still want a little more time to be sure.

You are absolutely right I do tend to change gear on very low revs....and sometimes too low. however yesterday I deliberately left it in 6th till the death.....well almost...on was on an incline with relatively low throttle and I went down to c 1000 rpm and yet no obvious injector noise Shocked

I still have some rattle but it's not very often and I suspect it is normal (not even sure if it could be clutch??? No idea) but I will be monitoring very closely for next few weeks).

Still amazes me how smooth the engine can be and that buzzing noise you get when the environment is under load is great
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@Caterham - did you ever positively confirm what was causing this issue and what ultimately resolved it. I have a similar problem with my 2.4 Puma and have been unable to resolve it to date. Extremely frustrating.
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Caterham



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No not 100%.

BUT. Having had a truck from new an having done 83k miles now I'm as confident as I can be that it's not injector noise at all but a clattering transfer box.

I've got a new gearbox waiting to be fitted but want to fit that with a fully rebuilt transfer box.....an that where I'm struggling a little. I hop to source a suitable transfer box which I plan to fit while mines is inspected, fully rebuilt and improved. I will then refit with new gearbox.

The engine seems to be running sweet as cab be and fear the issues have been transmission related but have seemed to be engine related. I know this sounds completely incompetent of me but I believe the symptoms are something anyone with limited defender knowledge could have concurred with myself.


Good luck.

One other thing to say. I have found that if I drive back n forth in low range it generally takes away any clattering. It's as if the linkages etc that align gears or however it works aren't set up right?
Post #606621 4th Mar 2017 11:26am
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