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leeds



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Well Eduardo, I personally would not be able to communicate in Spanish. That I would leave to Barbara.

I must admit, even as a native English I had to look up the meaning of orthography Thumbs Up


A quick look at a poster's location/ name should give a strong clue to if they are native English speaker or not.

Let's face it this is an international forum where the common interest is in the Land Rover Defender range rather then an English grammar forum. Hopefully this thread will not discourage our non native English speaking from contributing towards this international English language forum.


So as long as a poster manages to express their main idea clearly, does it really matter if grammatically speaking it is not 100% perfect?

However I will admit it does mildly annoy me if people use the word no rather then the word know, however I am more interested in the main point of their post rather then it being perfectly correct English.


Brendan

PS Yes I am guilty of not checking my post by using the preview button. Also at times I get told off for writing in note form
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Would not a better title for this thread be 'grammar pedant' rather than the implications of 'grammar Nazi'. Being a bit pedantic is one thing but it's a whole different level to being a Nazi. Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
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Also, at what point in time are we setting the datum for correct use of the language? Ought we to be reverting to the use of the 1940's or maybe even the 1840's? Language changes over time in a constant and unpredictable way, it does not diminish as a result, we are still able to communicate ideas even across thousands of years and that is not a bad trick for a troop of upright apes. Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
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The point of reference is now. Why would it be anything else?

Also, why 'pedant'? A pedant is someone who is unecessarily or ostentatiously over-particular about things that are minor or irrelevant.

What's pedantic about just communicating clearly and accurately?

Mind you, this place is positively Shakespearean compared to Landyzone. 2003 Td5 110 Hardtop
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Post #292603 23rd Dec 2013 6:14am
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Double post. Sorry. Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.

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That is the point, now is an ever changing place and to set a datum for language use as now is to effectively constrain the evolution of the language to a set point in time. Grammar is the observed rules used by speakers of a language to construct words into meaningful phrases and sentences. This will and ever has changed over time. Rhubarb and custard let fly with their secret weapon.
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Mind you, this place is positively Shakespearean compared to Landyzone.[/quote]

LOL PMSL er sorry no, I mean, blimey, I almost had an accident in the trouser department involving urine, due to laughing so much Laughing
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lambert.the.farmer wrote:
Would not a better title for this thread be 'grammar pedant' rather than the implications of 'grammar Nazi'. Being a bit pedantic is one thing but it's a whole different level to being a Nazi.


'Grammar Nazi' long ago developed into an internet meme that took on a life of its own (see my link in the first post, although you have to be familiar with the oeuvre of Mr Tarantino for it to make any sense). Rolling with laughter

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Mind you, this place is positively Shakespearean compared to Landyzone.


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Give us a brake. I dunno wot u lot r on about. I reckon that sureley their are far more important things for peeps to worry thereselves about. Steve.
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I don't have a problem with bad grammar on this forum as long as I can get the context or jist of the post.

I do have a problem with atrocious grammar if used in EBay ads or Gumtree listings etc.

If you want to sell it to me please review your ad or find a friend who can spell , you all know the classic words that are regularly misappropriated .
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lambert.the.farmer wrote:
Would not a better title for this thread be 'grammar pedant' rather than the implications of 'grammar Nazi'. Being a bit pedantic is one thing but it's a whole different level to being a Nazi.



Have I been called? (sorry for this, but as a German....)


To be honest very interesting thread. When reading on here I have been wondering severall times if it just was my limited english knowledgements, colloquial english that I don't always understand (school didn't teach that) or just very bad and wrong english from one and another author.
I'm still on here on a regular basis to read about LRs, even I sold my Defender (though still very very LR-hearted) but for improving my english too, but you guys sometimes make it very hard to use this here as my costless english lessons!!! Sad
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Can't stand it when someone is explaining something, on the tele or radio, and they keep saying "you know" all the time, when I don't. That's why they are telling us!

I promise to get out more!

Merlin
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I tend to read a thread, especially the first post in a thread, and if it's utter garbage, lack of pronounciation/spelling etc, and the poster appears to be English, then I'll just ignore it, even if I know the answer.

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I'm with Jamie on this. I spent the last 4 yrs of my military career writing reports and driving a desk. My boss was a grammar nazi. We had a whole book on how to write in a military fashion. He knew the book inside out. My early reports used to come back covered in red pen. And I now find I'm the same 110 D250 SE HT
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brake = noun, the device that stops a vehicle
break = verb, separate into pieces as a result of a blow, shock, or strain; interrupt (a continuity, sequence, or course).

You have a breakdown, not a brakedown.

And breathe. Real trucks don't have spark plugs
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