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Ric



Member Since: 03 Nov 2012
Location: South Yorkshire
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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black
Winch advice
Hi All,
Just agreed a purchase price on a 110 utility xs in Blk
I'm wanting to tweak it over the next few months.
One of the first things is a winch and bumper, I have no idea on which one I need.
I want the bumper to look standard and if I get one with the led day lights in then that's a plus but not essential.
It needs to fit in front of the air on grille without cutting into it,
The winch needs to do basic off road duties but will be used more for pulling out hedges, bushes and securing trees etc and creating zip lines or larger branches Very Happy
Any advice welcomed its only a car!
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Landlord



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Td5 HT Cairns Blue
Try Peter at First Four, very helpful and good quality kit.

http://www.firstfour.co.uk/products/winch-...nditioning 2007 TD5 90 Hard Top
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diesel_jim



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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 110 Td5 SW Epsom Green
Husky EW8000 or warn 9000i, both low profile (ish, the Husky is a bit bigger), both supplied as standard over the years, both powerful and robust (i.e., don't need to be used every other day to stop them from siezing up)
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leeds



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Ric, it might be worthwhile having a short trip up north to West Yorkshire and seeing Chris at the Electric Winch Shop.

There is a vast range of winches out there. Would strongly suggest that you avoid cheap winches on ebay?

Premier winches is probably Warn however at a premier price although they have the cheaper Tabor range.

Goldfish range from David Bowyer have a good reputation.

Consider the Warrior winch range as well. Used to be badged as Champion until American law got involved!

Syntetic line or steel cable? Synthetic line is considered to be safer then steel, however steel correctly used will be harder wearing for hedge and tree stump removal.

Have a few words with Chris he has been around winches for a year or two Razz


Brendan
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Chauch



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United Kingdom 2001 Defender 90 Td5 HT Caledonian Blue
I personally cannot speak highly enough of the Goodwinch range. Superb support and if you can get a package deal from David, always offered at the shows, extremely good value...
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willy eckerslike



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HCPU Keswick Green
I've had a champion ( so called cheap) winch for years, use it once or twice a month, Would i buy a Warn or other premium winch at 3 times the price, simply NO. Do take into consideration the weights involved and possible suspension upgrade. Very sensible advice from Brendan re rope versus wire and visiting the Electric winch shop.

Most of all get advice on properly rated shackles/ slings and snatch blocks, definately avoid anything that is not stamped with a safe working load. Original Member Pie n Pea Club.
110 HCPU Tipper
Post #181896 4th Nov 2012 9:29am
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leeds



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Consider carefully how you will use the winch.

Grubbing out hedges use either a short length of chain or a wire sling around the tree. Not the winch rope! Bark damage to rooted out hedge is not an issue. Webbing slings not as durable as chain

Zip wire to a tree? Widest possible POLYESTER strap, for minimal extension and minimal damage to the tree!

Chris has a wide range of winches on display. IF you decide to visit him give him a phone call beforehand so he can put an hour or so aside to talk to you!


Remember it is not just winch/bumper package that you need to look at but the COMPLETE package. Shackles, chains, straps and do not forget safety gear such as gloves! Wireless control might be useful as well.

Also learn how to use it safely. Winches WILL bite and it will be PAINFUL if you do not use them safely.



Brendan
Post #181905 4th Nov 2012 9:59am
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v40mav



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Used various winches over the years - some guys love hydraulic ones - but I've only ever fitted electric ones -

In the previous 90's I had a Come-up 9500lb winch and that did everything that was asked of it when needed - In the truck cab - I had the Warn 8274 as it was getting used a bit more seriously off road and was a lot faster - but it depends on what use it will get. Sometimes the free spool would stick !! but a clean later and it was all fine again

If you are using on a commercial basis - then its worth getting the right tool for the job.

One common issue with electric winches is that people do not use then for ages and then suddenly need them and find they don't work as expected - You service your vehicle regularly - do like wise for you winch and it will serve you well

On the 110 just now I have a T-max 12000lb ewi-12000 - Can't fault it in any way.

Cable v rope - Mmmm now there's another debate that could go on for days - I have the wire still on mine - bit have plasma to replace it when it needs to be done - for moving trees / shrubs - personally I'd use wire with strops and follow usual safety guidelines. Using a Winch sail / etc

If you have not done much winching in the past - get along to a training course - that will be invaluable and may save you some mishaps that can be very dangerous when using winches. Defender 110 County SW

Disco 3 HSE

Freelander 2 HSE - SOLD going back to a car


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landy andy



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2006 Defender 110 Td5 USW Zermatt Silver
Just ordered a new winch myself.

I've had a warn winch for ages, and it has been very very good, but does get regular use. But now motor has gone and it is silly money to replace, and warn are over priced for what they are.

For your situation I would advise you get on the phone to Dave at superwinch. He can sort you out the full kit, bumper, wires, isolator, remotes, plasma, and even a training in its use. And if your needs change, you can alter your winch to suit them.

His back up and support I believe is top notch.......


Andy
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fekete



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landy andy wrote:
But now motor has gone


Andy


just get the motor rewound Thumbs Up NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
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johnszs



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Goodwinch gets my vote Thumbs Up

I have recently fitted a bow 2 large drum winch to my 90 and can't fault it

*looks the dogs nagers
*reasonable
*david gave some nice discount 2004 TD5 Defender 90 xs station wagon
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sc70



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Goldfish form David Bowyer (Goodwinch) great winch for the price, as already said David will give you a great deal on winch and bumper Thumbs Up
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Supacat



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If you're set on an electric winch, then Warn are good; but given your intended useage have you ruled out a Tirfor hand winch.

Given the choice of either (and I have both) the Tirfor is by far the most impressive and reliable.
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willy eckerslike



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Given you would rather use a tirfor is the Warn Winch not reliable then, surely pressing a button is easier then rigging up a Tirfor, especially in muddy conditions. Original Member Pie n Pea Club.
110 HCPU Tipper
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Supacat



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All depends on the circumstances but given the following:

Earlier post "One common issue with electric winches is that people do not use then for ages and then suddenly need them and find they don't work as expected" - never a problem with a Tirfor;

Duty cycles - any electric winch will either kill a battery or overheat on multiple full load pulls - a Tirfor will work at rated load all day;

Versatility - front mounted has limited use for a reverse pull or indeed pull on a separate vehicle where you cannot manoevre to a winching position - Tirfor is very portable and can be moved from vehicle to vehicle.

An electric winch may be easier and quicker and I've used mine many times but if I had to choose between them then the Tirfor would win hands down. It's just such an amazing piece of kit.
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