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| Pickles Member Since: 26 May 2013 Location: Melbourne Posts: 3782   
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Very good mate. I think there might be a few variations of the "Final Edition". It would certainly be good to get what you want in the"last edition",.....a lot of people are gonna want one of these,...it'll be interesting to see if JLR can make enough to go around?
Whatever form it takes, when "it" is finally released, I reckon ya'd have to get your confirmed order into Solihull immediately. Cheers, Pickles. |
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23rd Feb 2014 12:17am |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4646 
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From October 2015 all new cars and light commercials sold in Europe will have to be fitted with a new safety device. It will activate when your AIRBAGS are triggered. It will send an automatic distress call to a call centre who will phone you back. If you do not reply within 40 seconds a call will be put into the emergency services and help sent to your location given by the unit. Seems it's to help people involved in serious one vehicle accidents. If the Defender is covered by this there will be no more sold after September 2015 as they don't have airbags to enable the system to be triggered 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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28th Feb 2014 6:11pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3707  
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This would require a sim card ? Network coverage in remote/not so remote areas of the UK does not exist so this will not work.
Who pays for the sim? what about poor people? |
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28th Feb 2014 8:59pm |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2751
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dont changes in 'features' not have to be fitted until a 'new model' comes out?
eg defenders don't have DRLs because its still the same 'car'? the Discovery and rr sport (old one) were the same, you see '12 and '13 models without DRLs. I can't see how they could expect manufacturers to fit such a feature to a car already in production, or produced but not registered yet? Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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28th Feb 2014 9:41pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4646
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From the BBC
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-18677335 1982 88" 2.25 diesel 1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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28th Feb 2014 11:16pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3707
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For this to work every road everywhere in Europe will require a network signal. A simple google search will clearly show that the UK is lacking full coverage.
For instance I'm of to Borth Wales today to check out the uncovered Petrified Forest at the sand dunes, I wont have signal for most of the journey. |
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1st Mar 2014 7:36am |
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| GUM97 Member Since: 05 Feb 2012 Location: Cheshire Posts: 3555 
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^^Too true, I can go 10 minutes away from home and lose a signal, and often not get it back for hours! (North Wales!) An engine to TDi for!
"Land Rover- Proudly turning drivers into mechanics since 1948"  |
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1st Mar 2014 7:46am |
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| BigWheels Member Since: 21 Mar 2010 Location: Somerset Posts: 1405 
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Ambulance services are overstretched as it is! I can see this going the US way & private health care ambulances/paramedics picking this up.
That will involve cost, which will be passed onto insurance companies, resulting in higher premiums etc. The signals may be sent by satellite giving a GPS fix on where the report came from..... Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender |
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2nd Mar 2014 5:07pm |
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| What puddle? Member Since: 25 Oct 2013 Location: Reading Posts: 952
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Crikey, I live in Reading, a large town, and on top of a hill. We can't get Vodafone or Three (don't know about the others). I run a business, and have to phone everyone on a landline. Even if my mobile does ring, half the time I can't hear what's being said, and it mostly goes to voicemail - which then costs me to retrieve! This country of ours has so many problems which need sorting, and one of them is broadband (we get an absolute maximum of 5Mbps despite being less than a mile from a BT exchange) and mobile phone coverage. So I hope someone doesn't set their airbags off outside my house! Now left.
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3rd Mar 2014 5:52pm |
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| NT5224 Member Since: 10 Jul 2012 Location: Robin Falls Posts: 50 
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"From October 2015 all new cars and light commercials sold in Europe will have to be fitted with a new safety device. It will activate when your AIRBAGS are triggered. It will send an automatic distress call to a call centre who will phone you back. If you do not reply within 40 seconds a call will be put into the emergency services and help sent to your location given by the unit".
Err, what if I don't own a mobile phone? |
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6th Mar 2014 5:34am |
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| What puddle? Member Since: 25 Oct 2013 Location: Reading Posts: 952
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Then you are Amish, so you wouldn't have a car either
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6th Mar 2014 7:48am |
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| NT5224 Member Since: 10 Jul 2012 Location: Robin Falls Posts: 50
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"Then you are Amish, so you wouldn't have a car either...."
Yes, but haven't you heard the new EU regs also extend to my horse drawn carriage -to mitigate risks if my old hay-burner is in collision with another fast-moving beast of the field |
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6th Mar 2014 8:52am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17349 
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It is interesting that this is rearing its ugly head again. I seem to recall that when the first proposals for OBDII were being discussed, this concept was part and parcel of that, later quietly dropped.
The call-for-help-in-a-crash feature is, of course, not the core feature of this system, it is simply the one which most people will find least unpalatable. The real reason for this is that it will give enforcement authorities the ability to track any car at any time anywhere, and also to know exactly how fast you are travelling. (ANPR is of course the best that they can do for the former at the moment, ANPR data is stored and can subsequently be searched to track historical movements of vehicles). I suppose that there may be some benefits if your car is stolen, but the civil libertarians will go berserk! The flaws in the call-for-help-in-a-crash feature are so patently obvious to anyone with even half a brain that I can't really believe that even the media is reporting this! It will of course all go wrong the first time that someone crashes in a remote area and the system fails, and the "victim" then sues the car manufacturer, the ambulance service, and old Uncle Tom Cobleyand all. |
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6th Mar 2014 9:56am |
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| pjb Member Since: 08 Apr 2009 Location: Sunny Oxford Posts: 1244 |
Off topic but could not agree more we are just outside Oxford - mobile phone signal -voda - is pants on my drive to work & even at work less than 4 miles from Oxford City Centre it can be best described as marginal. 5mb  we need three bonded broadband lines to get less than that 
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6th Mar 2014 10:12am |
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