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v8bobber



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Java Black
Td5 rough running when starting
Hi All,

When I start my Td5 it is very lumpy for a few seconds. I have changed the injector loom previously and am wondering whether it is down to the cold weather as it seems to be worse then

Glow plugs perhaps?

Dave
Post #283373 18th Nov 2013 10:36pm
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Orangeboy



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Think most diesel cars/vans I have had sound broken when first started in te cold weather

Does it start easily without lots of cranking over ?
Post #283376 18th Nov 2013 10:40pm
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v8bobber



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no she starts first turn. All other "modern" diesels i know seem to be even running from the moment they start
Post #283377 18th Nov 2013 10:42pm
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landy andy



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2006 Defender 110 Td5 USW Zermatt Silver
Td5's are often a bit rough on cold start as they only have four glow plugs but five cylinders.

Andy
Post #283378 18th Nov 2013 10:44pm
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v8bobber



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ah yes i'd forgotten about that. I seem to remember it being quite tricky to get the caps back on so not sure how hard they are to change

Dave
Post #283379 18th Nov 2013 10:47pm
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Orangeboy



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My golf tdi sounds very rattley when it first starts in the cold
Maybe its as broken as out defender lol
Post #283435 19th Nov 2013 9:19am
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Martin
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Make sure you let it glow long enough. They are a bit lumpy as said because of the missing plug.  1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
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Post #283436 19th Nov 2013 9:20am
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v8bobber



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I do let the pre heat light go out before i start it. It must be down to a temp sensor I would have thought as it stays on for longer when it is cold.

I remember with a Tdi I had years ago you could give it a double blast of glowplugs but you can't do that with the Td5. I'll take them out and test them when I get a minute. It wouldn't surprise me if one or more of them is broken.

My previous Td5 didn't have this problem so just made me wonder....

Dave
Post #283580 19th Nov 2013 9:22pm
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johnszs



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Mine sounds like its running on 4 for a few seconds until compression starts the 5th when temps are below 3 degrees, i assumed the air temp sensor and or glow plugs need replacing 2004 TD5 Defender 90 xs station wagon
Post #283586 19th Nov 2013 9:37pm
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Millsy94



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England 2003 Defender 90 Td5 PU Aintree Green
have you checked the flywheel sensor?? its just behind the started motor and if there is an issue with either the starter or the sensor the electronic interference can confuse the sensor
Post #283589 19th Nov 2013 9:41pm
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johnszs



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Havent thought of that, but i will have a look on the weekend 2004 TD5 Defender 90 xs station wagon
Post #283594 19th Nov 2013 9:44pm
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diesel_jim



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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 110 Td5 SW Epsom Green
And it seems that the Td5 glowplugs fail pretty regularly.

I fitted 4 new ones into my 90 when I fitted the last head (about 4 or 5 months ago), when I changed the head (again...) last weekend, I metered the plug out, and 2 had failed (OK, they were cheapy eblag ones not genuine, whether there's a difference in quality)
Post #283638 20th Nov 2013 7:49am
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jimbob7



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Cheers Jim.....for reminding us to buy oem plugs in future. Thumbs Up Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
Post #283687 20th Nov 2013 10:50am
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Carlosbeldia



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Columbia 2001 Defender 110 Td5 SW Epsom Green
I had same problem here, but my "cold" starts goes around 30°C, so I think is not a weather thing. My problem was the no-return valve in the filter line. It was damaged and let small amount of pressure went during night (not enough for difficult start but enough for rough start first 5 seconds) letting some air to go in the lines. 10 pounds after and smooth as a baby...
Post #284107 21st Nov 2013 8:19pm
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