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| Orangeboy Member Since: 24 Sep 2013 Location: Uk Posts: 48  |
Think most diesel cars/vans I have had sound broken when first started in te cold weather
Does it start easily without lots of cranking over ? |
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18th Nov 2013 10:40pm |
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| v8bobber Member Since: 26 Aug 2012 Location: pembrokeshire Posts: 448  
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no she starts first turn. All other "modern" diesels i know seem to be even running from the moment they start
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18th Nov 2013 10:42pm |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5800 
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Td5's are often a bit rough on cold start as they only have four glow plugs but five cylinders.
Andy |
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18th Nov 2013 10:44pm |
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| v8bobber Member Since: 26 Aug 2012 Location: pembrokeshire Posts: 448
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ah yes i'd forgotten about that. I seem to remember it being quite tricky to get the caps back on so not sure how hard they are to change
Dave |
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18th Nov 2013 10:47pm |
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| Orangeboy Member Since: 24 Sep 2013 Location: Uk Posts: 48 |
My golf tdi sounds very rattley when it first starts in the cold
Maybe its as broken as out defender lol |
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19th Nov 2013 9:19am |
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| Martin Site Admin Member Since: 02 Apr 2007 Location: Hook Norton Posts: 6637 
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Make sure you let it glow long enough. They are a bit lumpy as said because of the missing plug.
 1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top
2015 D90 XS SW |
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19th Nov 2013 9:20am |
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| v8bobber Member Since: 26 Aug 2012 Location: pembrokeshire Posts: 448
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I do let the pre heat light go out before i start it. It must be down to a temp sensor I would have thought as it stays on for longer when it is cold.
I remember with a Tdi I had years ago you could give it a double blast of glowplugs but you can't do that with the Td5. I'll take them out and test them when I get a minute. It wouldn't surprise me if one or more of them is broken. My previous Td5 didn't have this problem so just made me wonder.... Dave |
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19th Nov 2013 9:22pm |
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| johnszs Member Since: 16 Aug 2010 Location: Hereford Posts: 459 
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Mine sounds like its running on 4 for a few seconds until compression starts the 5th when temps are below 3 degrees, i assumed the air temp sensor and or glow plugs need replacing 2004 TD5 Defender 90 xs station wagon
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19th Nov 2013 9:37pm |
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| Millsy94 Member Since: 06 Jun 2013 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 91  
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have you checked the flywheel sensor?? its just behind the started motor and if there is an issue with either the starter or the sensor the electronic interference can confuse the sensor
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19th Nov 2013 9:41pm |
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| johnszs Member Since: 16 Aug 2010 Location: Hereford Posts: 459
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Havent thought of that, but i will have a look on the weekend 2004 TD5 Defender 90 xs station wagon
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19th Nov 2013 9:44pm |
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| diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6124 
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And it seems that the Td5 glowplugs fail pretty regularly.
I fitted 4 new ones into my 90 when I fitted the last head (about 4 or 5 months ago), when I changed the head (again...) last weekend, I metered the plug out, and 2 had failed (OK, they were cheapy eblag ones not genuine, whether there's a difference in quality) |
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20th Nov 2013 7:49am |
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| jimbob7 Member Since: 06 Jul 2013 Location: uk Posts: 2055 |
Cheers Jim.....for reminding us to buy oem plugs in future.
 Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5. |
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20th Nov 2013 10:50am |
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| Carlosbeldia Member Since: 13 Oct 2013 Location: Cartagena Posts: 43 
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I had same problem here, but my "cold" starts goes around 30°C, so I think is not a weather thing. My problem was the no-return valve in the filter line. It was damaged and let small amount of pressure went during night (not enough for difficult start but enough for rough start first 5 seconds) letting some air to go in the lines. 10 pounds after and smooth as a baby...
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21st Nov 2013 8:19pm |
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