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landys1

Member Since: 04 Dec 2013
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 134

2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black

Brendan, so if I'm paying £220 yr road tax (MY2011 Puma 90 xs), this is classed as a commercial? And towbar doesn't need to be type approved?

Cheers, Andrew 1959 Series 2 Ragtop
1989 SWB Stationwagon
1998 300Tdi Hard Top and 2012 2.2 Puma Hardtop (at work)
2011 Puma 90 2.4 XS

15th Dec 2013 3:06pm

x-isle

Member Since: 26 May 2011
Location: Midlands
Posts: 1327

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black

Tough call that one, but even so, if it doesn't have to be approved, your insurance co. may think different? Craig Rogers

2007 Puma 110 XS
2011 Evoque Coupe Dynamic Lux
www.craigrogers.photography

15th Dec 2013 4:22pm

leeds

Member Since: 28 Dec 2009
Location: West Yorkshire
Posts: 8580

landys1 wrote:
Brendan, so if I'm paying £220 yr road tax (MY2011 Puma 90 xs), this is classed as a commercial? And towbar doesn't need to be type approved?

Cheers, Andrew

I believe that is classified as a commercial vehicle and hence does not legally have to use type approved towbar.

Now can/will an insurance company require you to have fitted something that the law does not require? That is not a question I can answer. That is between you and your particular insurance company.

Brendan

15th Dec 2013 6:17pm

landys1

Member Since: 04 Dec 2013
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 134

Ok, thanks, better check with the insurance company then to be on the safe side 1959 Series 2 Ragtop
1989 SWB Stationwagon
1998 300Tdi Hard Top and 2012 2.2 Puma Hardtop (at work)
2011 Puma 90 2.4 XS

15th Dec 2013 7:26pm

Pam W

Member Since: 25 Oct 2011
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 1169

My 1998 Defender is classed as a commercial van because it came out of the factory as a hard top (no windows and no seats in the back, ie. not a Station Wagon). It has had windows put in later and at one time also had seats in the back, but it still retains its 'hard top' identity.

As it is pre-2000 I pay the same VED as a same age SW though, so it is really only on newer post-2000 vehicles that checking what amount of VED you pay tells you what class it is.

My 90 is also classed by the insurance people as a commercial van. The insurance company has access to a database which decodes chassis numbers and tells them if a vehicle is a commercial or not. I used to have mine insured as a private car until the insurance companies got this database. Now it has to be a commercial and I have to stump up about £100 more per year to insure it as a consequence!

However, it does mean I can legally use a receiver hitch

On older models like mine it doesn't tell you much on the V5C, and of course the body type may have been changed before your ownership, but the VIN number code can confirm the original classification. FirstFour have conveniently provided a decoding page to help you work out what your own vehicle is. http://www.firstfour.co.uk/products/land-r...nformation Our blog - http://landytravels.com/

Yorkshire Off Road Club - http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net

15th Dec 2013 10:11pm

jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 7987

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

landys1 wrote:
Brendan, so if I'm paying £220 yr road tax (MY2011 Puma 90 xs), this is classed as a commercial? And towbar doesn't need to be type approved?

Cheers, Andrew

correct its commercial, you dont need type approval towing. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop

16th Dec 2013 4:10pm

landys1

Member Since: 04 Dec 2013
Location: Cheshire
Posts: 134

Great, thanks for that

Makes towbar choices a lot easier... 1959 Series 2 Ragtop
1989 SWB Stationwagon
1998 300Tdi Hard Top and 2012 2.2 Puma Hardtop (at work)
2011 Puma 90 2.4 XS

16th Dec 2013 4:18pm

Mr Fox

Member Since: 10 Sep 2011
Location: green & pleasant land
Posts: 1037

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Keswick Green

x-isle wrote:
Finally got around to fitting the Safari Equipe Receiver supplied by Brendan (AKA Leeds).

Top piece of kit, although I won't be leaving the recovery receiver left in.

Click image to enlarge

This looks ideal.

I cannot see this part on the web site mentioned; does anyone know of another source for it? I assume it isn't simply the plate but also the support underneath?

16th Jul 2015 7:37pm

DC101

Member Since: 01 Jul 2012
Location: Pudsey, West Yorkshire
Posts: 260

AM94,

Contact Leeds, Brendan at 4x4 Overlander , and I'm pretty sure he will be able to supply, as I bought mine from him. Kit includes plate and support, plus ties to chassis. Other parts such as recovery pintle and drop tow hitch were extra.
Worthwhile modification for my use.

Good luck

16th Jul 2015 9:14pm

Mr Fox

Member Since: 10 Sep 2011
Location: green & pleasant land
Posts: 1037

Thanks DC101 - will do

17th Jul 2015 8:24am

nakatanenga

Member Since: 12 Nov 2010
Location: Neumarkt
Posts: 546

Together with a Type approved Towball this is a perfekt combination:

http://nakatanenga-tours.de/shop/article_A...KMM-030%26 WANTED:

SII or SIII in max 1.5k

17th Jul 2015 8:33am

Brewstop

Member Since: 28 Oct 2012
Location: South Oxfordshire
Posts: 313

2002 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Zambezi Silver

x-isle wrote:
Finally got around to fitting the Safari Equipe Receiver supplied by Brendan (AKA Leeds).

Top piece of kit, although I won't be leaving the recovery receiver left in.

Click image to enlarge

Is this the type approved one? Sandy

17th Jul 2015 6:07pm

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