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100inch



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Australia 2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Santorini Black
Iīm pretty certain that the TD5/TDci wheel bearing system only got that bad reputation because of a lack of lubrication. I removed the drive members of each wheel and put grease and a few mlīs of gearbox oil into the hub shortly after I received my TDci which was one year old at that time. One of the splines to the drive member were already rusty. And grease behind the plastic cups on the drive members helps to keep water out, maybe.[/quote]

Have to say that LR gets really tight with grease! 3 sides where ok but one was borderline getting dry....
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roel



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Netherlands 2003 Defender 90 Td5 PU Caledonian Blue
I am not sure Land Rover still uses grease, as I didn't find any yet on my G4D3. Big Cry
They put steel bolts through alu bushes off the suspension without a spot off grease. I was lucky as I got the bolts out with a lot off hammering but I know stories that an angle grinder was needed to cut the bolts. Roel

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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
Even if you change the bearings, it is unlikely to be necessary to alter the size of the spacer ring, since bearings are manufactured to exceptionally fine tolerances (especially if you replace with beaings from the same manufacturer). If you have to change the hub or stub axle, however, then it is likely that the spacer will need changing.

Apropos the mention above to bearing races with the earlier set-up rotating on the stub axle and causing damage, this will only happen if there is an underlying fault with the bearings or their adjustment, ie it is symptomatic of some other problem.
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landybehr



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my saying Smile

as for the stub axle damage - am I the only one who has experienced that wear on the stub axle ? Canīt think so. Think itīs rather neglected than uncommon. So if there is an underlying fault (sure there is) then in my eyes that comes as standard from Solihull Smile. You purchase a Defender and by the time you have to adjust the preload that fault has come to evidence.
In fact all that doesnīt matter too much. The vehicle drives and will not fail. Wheel bearing play will increase though. The heavier the car the more/ the sooner. I know about an (unreasonably) heavily equipped 130" which had a wheel bearing adjustment almost as often as engine oil exchange. No big issue, but hassle. After that 130" got that spacer that was gone.
Probably s/o knows about another Defender whose owner was a brilliant preload-setter and hasnīt had it getting out of adjustment .... will not convince me, based on the aforementioned fault of the stub axles. I have had only 3 sets of axles disassembled in my "career" but I found faulty stub axles without exception.

Itīs right that you need a selection of spacer rings, and have to trial-and-error fit them to get the right ones. OTOH the 110" of a friend needed 3 of one size and one of another; still you need to have a choice when putting them in - if a old system is converted. I do not remember it as a PITA. I ordered a selection of them and was able to send back the surplus. Once that is done, there is not much work left. Basically I donīt see why a wheel bearing which isnīt misaligned and which is well lubricated shouldnīt last a few 100k kmīs. Changing them regularly is satisfying but costly.
To me itīs rather me being lazy than Scrooge-like which drives me into arguing this way Smile
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