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theorangebandit



Member Since: 03 Jun 2013
Location: Stowmarket
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Which brand of 2SO ?
I have searched the forum and many people are all using different brands, Im after the most recommended stuff. ill then hunt it down at the lowest price on the interent coz Im tight fisted Laughing

any guidance will be great Thumbs Up
Post #248989 4th Jul 2013 11:40am
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LandRoverAnorak



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I'm currently using MOTO 100 bought from site sponsor, Opie Oils.

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-928-motul-100-...gines.aspx

Under £30 for five litres with the DEF2 discount Thumbs Up Darren

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Post #248996 4th Jul 2013 12:04pm
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ericvv



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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
There was an interesting feature on the benefits of 2SO in a Defender in last months LRO or LRM. Forgot which of the two it was.
The essence of the article was that they questioned very much what the real benefit can be of adding 2SO to a 4SE (i.e. a 4 stroke engine). Food for thought I guess..... You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o
https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I
https://vimeo.com/201482507
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw
Post #249001 4th Jul 2013 12:17pm
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theorangebandit



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Thanks anorak I may just go ahead with that reccomendation

In reply to the article I have done a fair amount of research on ot. I know the benifits out way any scare story. I've used many fuel and oil mixtures in the army for climate change operations. Of course the difference is the army label there oil with there own coding so the branding remains a mystery Razz

Ill have a look at the article someone may have found something new. My only worry is mixing fuel works fine on 200/300 tri and other older engines. oNly did the extra research as puma is very nee to me
Post #249012 4th Jul 2013 12:56pm
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rossy



Member Since: 29 Nov 2010
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Ireland 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Stornoway Grey
As yours is a 2.4 the cheapest Jaso FB spec is best. At B&Q there's currently 20% off Carplan oils so you'll get their Carplan 2SO (labelled motorcycle oil) for about £4 a litre. You ain't going to get it cheaper anywhere Thumbs Up
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Alex1976



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I have been using Comma and it seems to be good stuff. I get is from a trader on ebay and it is about £17 for 5 litres delivered.

I was using carplan but the Comma stuff seems to be better.
Post #249107 4th Jul 2013 8:37pm
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Lambley



Member Since: 20 Apr 2013
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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 90 Td5 HT Java Black
I looked into 2SO and did some research, eventually I went for Millars EcoMax instead, you use lots less of it so it works out cheaper in the long run, bought 5L from Opie on one of their specials, I can honestly say it seems better already and I've only done a few miles so far. Top service from Opie too. Thumbs Up
Post #249117 4th Jul 2013 9:09pm
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theorangebandit



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I think opie oils is winning the vote here. im currently running some redex through so ill let that tank run out first
Post #249170 5th Jul 2013 8:33am
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jayaway44



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Lambley wrote:
I looked into 2SO and did some research, eventually I went for Millars EcoMax instead, you use lots less of it so it works out cheaper in the long run, bought 5L from Opie on one of their specials, I can honestly say it seems better already and I've only done a few miles so far. Top service from Opie too. Thumbs Up


When you say you use a lot less how much do you use on a fill and is that in a 2.4 or a 2.2 or does it matter what engine.

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Post #249185 5th Jul 2013 9:51am
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Lambley



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I add 1/1000, so 50ml per tank rather than around 250ml of 2so, so far so good. Here's a link to halfords reviews etc, I bought a 5L can which will last for 100 fill ups, I've got 2 cars and will be using it in both. I seem to remember somebody saying NOT to use 2so in Puma engines, not sure why now though, the Ecomax can be used in any diesel. Mines a Td5.

http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/...;langId=-1
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SteveT247



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I've been using Millers for a few months now and I can tell a difference. Thumbs Up
Post #249281 5th Jul 2013 2:37pm
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theorangebandit



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50ml is a lot less than the average amount other people use. maybe its an experimental thing.
Post #249298 5th Jul 2013 3:37pm
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Lambley



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theorangebandit wrote:
50ml is a lot less than the average amount other people use. maybe its an experimental thing.
50ml is using Millars, that's the rec usage at 1/1000, not 2SO
Post #249299 5th Jul 2013 3:42pm
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bpman



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2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
I've not put any in mine for a while, but when I did I was told to use mineral not synthetic
Post #249306 5th Jul 2013 3:52pm
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spudfan



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Using comma at the moment as a local shop gets me a box of 12 X 600ml bottles at a good price.
As for not using 2so, a lot of modern trucks burn a little engine oil as a matter of course. A truck driver told me that. Fair enough it is not 2so but he thought it was a good idea to add to the Puma. Maybe time (years) will give us definitive answer but at the modest amounts we are using I cannot see it doing any harm. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
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