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BigWheels



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Torque is what I want. But for greater torque would I need a stronger prop/shaft etc. Solihull probably have everything balanced out... Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender
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I doubt you don't see tuners offer updated props

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3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
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Post #231148 28th Apr 2013 11:37am
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Sorry Steve, not quite sure what you are saying there, think it may be a bit of autocorrect going on. Wink
Post #231208 28th Apr 2013 5:19pm
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Sorry lol ok just to say I run updated props but that's for my suspension otherwise I'd still be running standard props even with the 3.2 although just look after them I got under mine today and greased all the joints

This is a little off topic sorry Ian

As long as a prop shaft is looked after it should be fine Thumbs Up

Steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs
3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P
hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit
ashcroft atb in transfer box
6 speed auto in build
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thanks Thumbs Up
Post #231221 28th Apr 2013 5:47pm
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rover wrote:
If I remember my physics corectly BHP= torque x revolutions. So if you increase torque you should also see a good increase in BHP unless you have a decrease in revs. Or maybe 0 level Physics does'nt apply anymore.

Be gentle with me if I am wrong its been a long time.


True - but a bit outdated.

Modern Common Rail Diesel Technology allows a much greater control and thus output of torque and power. IRB
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big steve wrote:
I doubt you don't see tuners offer updated props

Steve


Not all tuners no... as some have no idea.

Most tuners are not engineers - and definitely don't look at the bigger picture!


The standard propshaft in a Defender will be suitable for most applications (dependant on usage) - however, once you really start making proper torque you will twist propshafts and wind them up like a piece of liquorish.

There are ways around this though - I have have used HD propshafts - including those made from T45 and more exotic metals. In all honesty when you get outside then normal levels of performance, you will have to uprate other components .


Ian IRB
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Post #231473 29th Apr 2013 4:02pm
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Post #231580 29th Apr 2013 9:06pm
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Hi Ian,

Am considering your upgrade. Dropped you an email some time ago. Looking forward to your response,

regards,
Net
Post #232163 1st May 2013 10:39pm
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I also dropped Ian several emails/pm's, he replied to one but no others. The last sent on the 27 april, then a reminder email on the 9th May to see if he'd received the one sent on the 27th. I was really interested in the IRB510.

Unfortunately for Ian I have now gone with Pete at BAS. Dealing with Pete is like chalk and cheese in comparison. I enquired yesterday via a pm, my products post tomorrow.

To me, customer service is king... Thanks Pete.

Regards,

Mark
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pope10001 wrote:
I also dropped Ian several emails/pm's, he replied to one but no others. The last sent on the 27 april, then a reminder email on the 9th May to see if he'd received the one sent on the 27th. I was really interested in the IRB510.

Unfortunately for Ian I have now gone with Pete at BAS. Dealing with Pete is like chalk and cheese in comparison. I enquired yesterday via a pm, my products post tomorrow.

To me, customer service is king... Thanks Pete.

Regards,

Mark


Mark,

Sorry I couldn't help on this occasion. Really need to spend more time answering emails.


Ian IRB
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pope10001 wrote:
I also dropped Ian several emails/pm's, he replied to one but no others. The last sent on the 27 april, then a reminder email on the 9th May to see if he'd received the one sent on the 27th. I was really interested in the IRB510.

Unfortunately for Ian I have now gone with Pete at BAS. Dealing with Pete is like chalk and cheese in comparison. I enquired yesterday via a pm, my products post tomorrow.

To me, customer service is king... Thanks Pete.

Regards,

Mark


Funny that, I recently wanted a stage 2 flash, boost box and VVT and a certain company couldn't be bothered to return my calls or emails, i spent my money else where................
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Porny wrote:


Mark,

Sorry I couldn't help on this occasion. Really need to spend more time answering emails.


Ian


Hi Ian,

No worries, I appreciate that you are very busy, maybe you need to employ someone to do the email side of things for you.

Regards,

Mark
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Slightly off topic but relevant

In the good old days Engineers used to have a Secretary or Technical Clerk, then along came Microsoft and Management Consulatants and our trusted aides were replaced by unreliable boxes on our desks under the guise of efficiency and downsizing.

In true defender ownership style all us Engineers should accessorise ourselves with a Technical Clerk as a minimum.

Richard 130 Puma HCPU with an Artica 240LR Demountable Camper
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