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LR Sam



Member Since: 08 Nov 2012
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 234

England 
Defender not starting!
Hi all,

Went to start our 2011 90 today to find that it wouldn't start. At first I thought it must be the battery but radio and lights still worked and ignition worked but just did not start the engine. Sad Rang the dealer who advised us to get the AA out and then to take it to them if it still was not resolved.

AA came out this afternoon, spent an hour running tests and checking components but couldn't find the problem. The technician thought it was the secondary wire to the starter motor but when he tried to bypass it, the engine still didn't start. He checked all the fuses, connections and batteries but still did not find anything wrong. Got towed to the dealers and is sat there looking sorry for its self. Just wondering if anyone else has experienced this??? Im not holding much hope for the dealers!

Cheers

Sam
Post #212392 19th Feb 2013 4:31pm
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faplyon



Member Since: 20 Nov 2012
Location: Lyon
Posts: 8

France 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 PU Bonatti Grey
Had same problem !
Disconnect the fuel arrival to the pump (quick connect - no tool equired)
Put an empty bottle at the outlet
Make a kind of seal at the fuel filler with a piece of flat rubber and same in wood to press and a hole
And blow air
Fill apart of the bottle
reconnect the fuel line
And START ! Thumbs Up
Post #212407 19th Feb 2013 5:11pm
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Phoenix90



Member Since: 04 Mar 2012
Location: Cornwall
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
Do you have any more details?

- Was it turning over but not starting? Or was it not even turning over?

- Was the solenoid relay under the seat activating?

- Was the solenoid making the 'click' as it was activated?

- Was there a good supply to the starter?


Two problems i've heard of (and experienced one of) if it was not turning over:

- Faulty starter solenoid relay under the drivers seat, either totally broken / loose or not providing enough current to activate the solenoid.

- The nut on the solenoid o/p can become loose and also dirty, making for a poor contact (this happened to me and my local indie said he had seen 3/4 with this over the last 2-3 years).


Sure the dealer will sort it Thumbs Up
Post #212448 19th Feb 2013 7:17pm
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LR Sam



Member Since: 08 Nov 2012
Location: Yorkshire
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Thanks for both your replies! Phoenix 90 - The engine was not even turning over. The solenoid relay under the seat was activating and was clicking but then looking in the engine bay to the starter motor it looked as if the solenoid relay was the problem at the stater motor end. BUT once the starter motor was bypassed by the Technician the engine tried to start but still did not get going. The Battery was all fine. I believe like you that it must be something wrong with the solenoid but we shall see! Also which im sure has nothing to do with it was the Air Con fuse had blown randomly?

Thanks for your help and shall report back after the dealers have looked at it. Still under warranty.

Thanks

Sam
Post #212680 20th Feb 2013 4:40pm
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Happyoldgit



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey
If it's under warranty why did they say call the AA, surely it should have been Land Rover Assist? Steve.
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Post #212685 20th Feb 2013 4:55pm
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LR Sam



Member Since: 08 Nov 2012
Location: Yorkshire
Posts: 234

England 
Yes you are right but we were advised to call AA to get it started and take it to the dealer as they are only 2 miles away. Only problem is AA man couldn't get it started either. The dealer said LR Assist were too busy and as it was so close, would be easier to take it to them direct!
Post #212688 20th Feb 2013 5:02pm
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ericvv



Member Since: 02 Jun 2011
Location: Near the Jet d'Eau
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Switzerland 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SVX Station Wagon Santorini Black
Post #212689 20th Feb 2013 5:06pm
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spudfan



Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
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Ireland 
My 2011 has occasional non start issues but only with a spare set of keys that were programmed by a maindealer. I only received one set of keys with the vehicle so the second set was ordered in for me.When it arises -very rarely- I just lock/unlock the vehicle with the keyfob and it starts with a turn of the key. This makes me think that it is a programming glitch as the original set of keys work fine. I've heard of a number of people on this site who lock/unlock with the keyfob when they have a nonstart. Does'nt seem to be any harm just a glitch somewhere. I know it should'nt be there but it is and is easily surmounted. Regard it as an added security measure. Laughing 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai
Post #214232 25th Feb 2013 6:19pm
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SteveG



Member Since: 29 Nov 2011
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2005 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Belize Green
Do the Puma defenders still have the accident sensor on bulkhead that was on TD5's? If so, this could be another cause.
Post #214239 25th Feb 2013 6:58pm
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90dv



Member Since: 29 Jun 2011
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The AA are Land Rover Assist. If your lucky you'll get a dedicated patrol (usually in a Disco 4) if not a normal patrol specialising in LR (me) then if they are all busy a normal patrol. Dealer would of told you to ring the LR Assist number I assume? Then they will of sent the closest best suited patrol.
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