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ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731 |
I want to fit a noisekiller under my bonnet (if I can get someone to send to Germany) but there doesn't seem to be much clearance
If it ends up pressed down against the engine, won't it cook something (and/or make it louder)? Cheers Matt Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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4th Nov 2011 1:29pm |
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MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665 |
I guess you mean the NK "Blanket"...
I already have the NK soundproofing that is self-adhesive under the bonnet, and it seems to make a small difference. Instead of NK blanket, I am waiting to see what happens with this: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic8633.html If the 2.2 is quieter, and the engine cover makes a difference (and fits!) so long as the price is reasonable this looks a good bet to me... I assume this will give good access to check and top-up oil etc... Waiting to see when they come out... Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) |
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4th Nov 2011 1:39pm |
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ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731 |
Yep, the blanket Did you fit it under the whole bonnet underside or just the bulge? Did it make a significant difference? If not, I won't bother as it will cost me a king's ransom to get it shipped here Cheers Matt Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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4th Nov 2011 1:43pm |
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szracer Member Since: 10 Oct 2010 Location: Cotswolds Posts: 356 |
I fitted the under-bonnet NK insulation and it made a small but noticeable difference. I then fitted the NK blanket and it made a HUGE diffference!
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4th Nov 2011 1:54pm |
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twopoint6khz Member Since: 18 Aug 2011 Location: North Lakes Posts: 654 |
Mine's apparently arrived at home this afternoon, I'll be fitting it later
In theory if your cooling system works ok, it shouldn't overheat your engine. The heat rejection provided by the coolant/radiator is massively (as in hundreds of times) greater than the heat rejection directly off the top of the engine, which is where the NK blanket goes. After all modern engines (like the Td5 etc) already have a foam/plastic cover on the engine. Plus I figured what with living in the UK and driving a 110 which rarely sees a heavy load, it should be fine. Particularly as the massive viscous fan on the engine is waaaaay OTT for most applications. I used to run my old 90 through winter without it |
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4th Nov 2011 2:24pm |
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MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665 |
Yup I only have the under bonnet stuff - looks like this:
But now... I'm waiting for the 2012 cover as per dgardels' post: Click image to enlarge[/img] Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) |
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4th Nov 2011 2:26pm |
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ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731 |
Sorry for my "thickness" but what's the difference between NK "insulation" and "blanket"? Does the "blanket" stick under the bonnet or sit on the engine? Any chance of a pic of a fitted blanket and perhaps the website of the one you bought? I can only find self-adhesive stuff you cut yourself. Cheers Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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4th Nov 2011 2:35pm |
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MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665 |
The "Insulation" is self adhesive and sticks under the bonnet as my photo above
For Blanket: There's a video half way down this page: http://www.noisekiller.co.uk/acoustic_blankets_products.asp or here on youtube: Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) Last edited by MartinK on 4th Nov 2011 2:41pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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4th Nov 2011 2:38pm |
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twopoint6khz Member Since: 18 Aug 2011 Location: North Lakes Posts: 654 |
The 'insulation' is an adhesive-backed foam covered in foil, which you stick to the underside of the bonnet as in the photo above.
The 'blanket' actually straps to the engine (i.e. stays in place when the bonnet is lifted) and is made of a sheet of lead between two foam pads, all encased in a fabric bag. There are eyelets to hook it onto fixtures to keep it still. I'm guessing on more modern Defenders (Td5 onwards) you'd have room for one but not both - although I haven't tried it so I don't really know. |
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4th Nov 2011 2:40pm |
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Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 |
Insulation sticks to the underside of the bonnet.
Blanket goes over the top of the engine. I went the full NK route on one of my TD5's with insulation all over the place but the blanket made a big difference and I never cooked the engine or any ancillaries. Steve. Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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4th Nov 2011 2:42pm |
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ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731 |
Great - I'll be getting a blanket somehow Any advice on the size? The website says "Small 500x500mm, Medium 750x500 and Large 925x500". Do I want it over the entire engine compartment? Cheers Matt Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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4th Nov 2011 4:45pm |
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stevie d Member Since: 09 Nov 2009 Location: Bishops Stortford Posts: 342 |
I shouldn't worry about overheating a Defender - your not in Africa!!
I took the viscous fan off my TD5 a few weeks back and the temp guage hasn't budged from normal position. Includes motorway driving, 3 hours green laning and day to day driving. Steve Defender 90 TD5 Station Wagon Discovery 3 HSE BMW 330i Coupe |
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4th Nov 2011 6:20pm |
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ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731 |
Thanks - you've convinced me
but how big should I go (pfnaah, pfnaah)? Noisekiller do them in 500x500mm, 750x500 and 925x500 - not sure if I should cover the whole engine compartment or just the engine...y bit (must be a technical term for that ) Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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4th Nov 2011 6:29pm |
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MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2431 |
500x500mm. Puma 110" SW
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4th Nov 2011 7:50pm |
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