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Gye



Member Since: 11 Jan 2013
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2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Santorini Black
Extra seat in front/rear for 07 Reg Puma 90 Hardtop
Thinking of putting a middle front seat or Exmoor flip -up seat in the rear of my 90 Puma TDCI Hardtop - The space at the front would be tight but it is for my son so should be OK - anyone tried this conversion ? Thanks
Post #201105 12th Jan 2013 3:30pm
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warren



Member Since: 14 Oct 2009
Location: East Lancs.
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England 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Santorini Black
It's not legal I believe, due to EU regulations saying that all seats need a proper seatbelt, and not a lap belt.

It can be done though, the old Tdi's we had in the past had the centre seat. Fine for short journeys or short people, but a bit tight on a long run.

I've seen Pumas with a side facing seat in the back though, so it can be done, a pedantic police officer might take an interest though.

Strangely the V5 said my Defender had 3 seats (mine was a 90 Hard Top too), but only had the two. I was going to put a bench seat in the back (for very occasional use), but never got round to it. Still not 100% legal though...
Post #201108 12th Jan 2013 3:40pm
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K9F



Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
May be of interest....

Quote taken from one of the ensuing threads.....

ericvv wrote:
If you hava a Puma 2.4 or 2.2 as I think to read from your first post, note that retrofitting a center seat will be fully illegal, not only in Holland, but Europe wide. Same time, as of 2007 the reason why LR went away from inward facing rear seats was that they were also outlawed by EU. So the bad news is that retrofitting either a front middle seat or any inward facing seats to a 2007 onward Defender can neither be legalized, nor will be accepted by any insurance company. Doing so, they would break the law themselves.


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Post #201109 12th Jan 2013 3:42pm
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barbel jim



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 HT Tonga Green
Go for the exmoor trim forward facing child seat and place in the rear. Tested to all current legislation. You will need the seat belt kit at an additional cost, but it is the only safe way of adding a seat. I have a 3 seater hard top, and the center seat is for the wife when we all go out. even with the 3 point belt supplied by exmoor, it is not suitable for a child (as informed by Exmoor themselves). My H/T states its a 5 seater on the V5, so that means they include the wheel arches as additional seats !!!! Would not use them on the road, as not really fit for purpose. Someone like NFU will insure you for the Exmoor trim seats- You need to declare them as it is considered a modification.
Post #201124 12th Jan 2013 4:51pm
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Retroanaconda



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Scotland 
Bloody shame I say. Some of my best memories as a kid involve being thrown about the back of a 109" with no belts whatsoever due to enthusiastic driving Razz

And then when at college being 12-up in a 110CSW when going out on site visits, good fun - if a little cramped!

Even better when you get off the road, then it's really hard to stay seated!
Post #201145 12th Jan 2013 5:43pm
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SteveG



Member Since: 29 Nov 2011
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2005 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Belize Green
FYI, All forward facing seats for these age Defenders must have a 3 point harness.

It is perfectly legal to retrofit side facing seats in the rear load space of a Puma Defender, with or without seat belts.

Cheers

Steve
Post #201232 12th Jan 2013 8:37pm
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