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Twisted D 90 - Orkney Grey - STOLEN Tickhill, DN11- 27/12/12
From Landy Watch

My three month old Twisted Defender 90 was stolen from outside my parent-in-law's house in Tickhill (near Doncaster, South Yorkshire) during the night on the 27th December 2012... Twisted have looked at the various bits and pieces that I found on the ground after the theft and have confirmed that it was a professional job (given how they disarmed horn/alarm). Please keep a look out for it... distinctive for two reasons - most Twisted Defenders have running lights on the front bumper and body coloured wing mirrors... there are also Twisted logos on the sides and back... picture attached. Absolutely gutted!
Link to post on LW http://www.landywatch.co.uk/smf2/index.php?topic=791.0 1999 Defender TD5 110

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Post #197483 30th Dec 2012 11:30am
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Saw this on the LandyWatch forum, only 3 months old on a 62 plate. Big Cry

Just goes to show that no one with the standard LR alarm is safe from these scroat bags. With the wide availability now of these key fob programmers the only absolute solution to this form of theft is to fit an after market alarm system by a specialist dealer. Then add a Tracker system on top of that to stop tow away thefts and a X eng ignition barrel shield to combat the screwdriver ignition key. All of the above is passive then you can add Disclocks, pedal locks etc etc, but when do you stop with these mods? It annoys me just how vulnerable the standard alarm is and LR has known this for years without addressing the issue. Wouldn't surprise me if it was a sales strategy, in that if you get your Defender nicked, chances are that you will always go back and buy another one, so LR get two sales, not likely I know, I'm just venting. Evil or Very Mad
Post #197490 30th Dec 2012 11:56am
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I can imagine the forum posts now. There is a parallel universe where LR key fobs are difficult to re-program. The forums are filled with complaints about how the defender is supposed to be simple and threads on how to bypass the alarm!

We all need to face up to the fact that the only reason there is such a high rate of Defender theft is because of the booming trade in second hand parts.

Next time you buy a new door/bonnet/bulkhead off ebay ask where it came from..

If it isn't the unaware buyer that is causing the problem then we need to face up to a darker fact. That some people that drive land rovers are scum.

Harsh realities! We can't expect LR to fix any of the design problems now, lets face the fact that this is the twilight of the Defender as we know it and fix the problems ourselves.
Post #197502 30th Dec 2012 12:32pm
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Must be very Gutted Big Cry Its odd, as up to know i haven't seen many late pumas getting stolen and reported on posts Confused Even stranger to take a twisted special- It would be much harder to shift the parts eg, the bumper custom covered seats if had any extra just because you dont get many bits that customised Big Cry CSK Automotive
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Post #197511 30th Dec 2012 1:14pm
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sorry to her about this, i feel for you mate.
Post #197525 30th Dec 2012 3:11pm
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We're awaiting the owner to give us some updates on the security on the vehicle but a couple of thoughts have sprung to mind and indeed been posted on other forums/facebook.....

Firstly, the big question.... A factory 90 gets the Twisted make over... Did they improve the security ? They are (according to Skytag website) Skytag agents, so would they not have at least fitted a Skytag tracker as standard ?

Assuming that no improvements to the factory security was made, anyone sat reading this thinking their BBUS is a complete solution should think again Shocked As Lorryman has mentioned, the layered approach to security based on your budget and your evaluation of risk is the way forward. The only magical solution to not being at risk of having your Defender pinched is to sell it!

On a general note, there are enough Pumas out of warranty now to create the demand for more affordable puma specific parts, so we can expect to see more Puma thefts going foward. me@td5 is spot on in that generally, the owners desire for cheap parts fuels a good proportion of these thefts and yes, sadly it seems that some scum bags drive Land Rovers.

Equally, could there be a scum bag element in the trade too ? Shocked Is it simply innocent ignorance... as in, will the service guys at the dealership happily give out your EKA code to a local 'mate' in the trade or is there something more sinister going on.......

A 3 week old truck gets pinched in broad daylight from a crowded shopping centre car park and CCTV appears to show the vehicle being unlocked by the thieves and driven off....

The magical key fob programmers that were recently highlighted....Innocent solution to a common problem or .......??? I wonder if whoever coded it knew the possible applications and put safeguards in ?

Total speculation on my part of course but just highlighting the possibility............. Jon - 110 td5 [sold]. Currently Defenderless.
Post #197584 30th Dec 2012 6:32pm
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Spot on Jon, there was a independent garage not too far from me doing this, no names Whistle it was a while back and they got caught out as it was the workers there but basically they would sell a high top end Land Rover and within a few weeks the ones doing it Evil or Very Mad would pop round and pay the customers a visit as they had all the details of there address etc. The key would have been programmed and cut before hand and all they had to do was walk up to it and unlock it Rolling Eyes CSK Automotive
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2011/12 Position Model Theft Index rating(2)
1 Land Rover Defender 4.00%
2 BMW 7 Series 3.35%
3 Audi A5 3.00%
4 BMW X5 1.70%
5 Mercedes ML 1.57
6 Land Rover Range Rover 1.55%
7 Audi TT 1.51%
8 BMW Z4 1.47
9 Audi A3 1.45
10 Renault Laguna 1.37%

They still manage to steal BMW's Audi's Merc's so the Defender must be an easy target. No wonder the insurance doubled. Original Member Pie n Pea Club.
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Post #197594 30th Dec 2012 7:00pm
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Update from owner....

Quote:
Many thanks all for your comments - no changes to standard Land Rover alarm and no tracker on the truck (although Twisted did ask me if I wanted a tracker fitted - hindsight is a wonderful thing...). Full interior modified so Recaro seats finished in leather and Alpine media system...
 Jon - 110 td5 [sold]. Currently Defenderless.
Post #197648 30th Dec 2012 9:39pm
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Right, that's it! First thing next year I'm fitting a decent alarm, whatever it costs Evil or Very Mad
If it can't be found or disabled it seems to be the only way to stop my pride and joy being quietly removed. Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing...
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I wonder how he gets on know with insurance, A Defender thats worth 40-70k Confused Confused CSK Automotive
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Whereas I agree about Landy parts on eBay a lot of stolen cars leave the country in one piece.

As soon as it's out of the UK it's pretty much untraceable.
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Anyone looked at this system, you can remotely immobilise the car, i.e, the next time (after arming) the ignition is turned off the car is immobilised regardless of if you have the keys or not.

http://www.i-mob.co.uk/ Original Member Pie n Pea Club.
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Post #197761 31st Dec 2012 12:57pm
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ZeDefender wrote:
Right, that's it! First thing next year I'm fitting a decent alarm, whatever it costs Evil or Very Mad
If it can't be found or disabled it seems to be the only way to stop my pride and joy being quietly removed.

Do they steal Defenders frequently in Germany? Here in Switzerland not really as far as I know, so I think my staged approach of standard alarm, good quality steering wheel lock and Ard'Case will be sufficient.
Not even sure if a tracker system would work on continental Europe, outside UK????? You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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No - not as much thank God, especially in "backward Bavaria" Laughing
However, as I drive to Colchester in the UK (family) and other risky places like Prague, Sofia, Linz etc. (where I may leave the vehicle for days) I am still very wary...

I haven't looked into trackers here yet (planning to), but with an ignition barrel sleeve, huge steering wheel lock and another "special immobiliser", my only problem would probably be if thieves disabled the (useless) LR alarm and towed the vehicle away. I'm hoping a completely independent alarm system would make that very awkward Confused Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
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