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| Regard Member Since: 08 Dec 2011 Location: RSA Posts: 251   
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Never heard of such a thing happening....
However...I've heard of side shafts snapping due to excessive wheel spin on the older non-TC Defenders. As soon as the wheel touch the ground/get grip again the side shaft just let go.....BUT..... ......that means that TC will actually prevent this by braking that wheel before it will build up excessive speed. So no.....it will definitely not break anything! |
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21st Dec 2012 5:05pm |
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| John.L Member Since: 02 Dec 2012 Location: Europe Posts: 36 |
Thanks. That does make sense to me! Maybe he had mistaken this for the situation you described.
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22nd Dec 2012 10:04am |
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| Gareth Member Since: 12 Dec 2011 Location: Bramhall Posts: 1092 
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Yes. In Morocco 2 years ago, front diff blew on Sonic's 110. In 2008 Andrews blew the front diff on his 110 in the sand. On both occasions the vehicle was drivable after removing front prop, removing driving flanges from hubs, fitting pot noodle cartons over the hub end, and pulling the TC fuse. Both vehicles then drove in 2wd. 2021 Defender 110 X-Dynamic HSE D300 MHEV
1966 S2a 109 aka Betsy 1968 S2a 88 aka Bob 2014 Jaaaag F Type 3.0 Supercharged. |
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22nd Dec 2012 2:16pm |
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| JWL Member Since: 26 Oct 2011 Location: Hereford Posts: 3443 
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Just a bit off topic but why the need to pull the tc fuse? As the wheels aren't driven they're not going to spin so not engaging tc. I recently had to drive a couple of days with no front prop and had no issue with tc, it did work on the back axle when I had to drag a car out of a ditch. I left mine connected as I didn't want to disable the abs.
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22nd Dec 2012 2:50pm |
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| Andy Jeff Member Since: 11 Nov 2012 Location: Suffolk, UK. Posts: 143  
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From experience on friends trucks, this does indeed happen and the more aggressive the tyre, the more likely so it is. That is to say if you're spinning a Simex Extreme Trekker, it's more likely to suddenly grip harder than a BFG AT. Andy. |
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22nd Dec 2012 3:26pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3707 
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Referring to Gareth's post. We were is sand so when pulling away with just rear wheel drive the system got confused and applied the brakes. We could not understand why this was so we simply pulled the ABS/TC fuses under the drivers seat. This for whatever reason allowed us to continue out of the desert and all the way back to the UK.
I have seen rear half shafts break on TC equipped vehicles when climbing up steep muddy inclines. I presumed that it was the very basic TC applying the brakes to a spinning wheel that caused this to happen. |
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22nd Dec 2012 3:27pm |
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| Regard Member Since: 08 Dec 2011 Location: RSA Posts: 251
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I agree 100% And also....I really do not see TC breaking a diff  No way....... like I mentioned, maybe it can break a side shaft but a diff I doubt.
Might be wrong though but have never heard of such a thing? |
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22nd Dec 2012 3:28pm |
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| Regard Member Since: 08 Dec 2011 Location: RSA Posts: 251
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Didn't you just took of to quickly then? It means that your rear wheels where spinning! Last year this time I did a trip through the Namib desert. It was 700km of massive dunes without a foot of tarr for those 6 days and did not have one second where TC stoped me from climbing a dune, etc....I think it is a system that works just perfectly! P.s.....wasn't there a change in the system somewhere along the line? |
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22nd Dec 2012 3:34pm |
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| AndrewS Member Since: 10 Apr 2007 Location: Hereford Posts: 3707
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Didnt matter how we took off the thing would go no more than 10 feet and grind to a halt. We tried and tried to get going it just would not have it
 We got people watching the wheels as we tried to move this is when we spotted that the brakes were being applied. The vehicle was a 57 plate 110 utility. Pulling the TC/ABS fuse got us going.
There is a post all about it somewhere. |
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22nd Dec 2012 6:28pm |
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| adseybear Member Since: 08 Oct 2009 Location: Vancouver, Canada Posts: 260 
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I remember talking to the guys at Kankku in the Lake District, they used to disable TC on the Td5 90's as they found they were snapping half shafts on the rocky terrain. 2003 Defender 90 Td5 CSW Belize Green - "Betty"
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27th Dec 2012 1:34pm |
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