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ickle



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France 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Alpine White
Try this: http://defender-manuals.s3.amazonaws.com/w..._book3.pdf

Seal should be pressed in until it just touches circlip - if I've read the correct bit....

Keith
Post #194421 17th Dec 2012 7:40pm
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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
Thanks. I had a look at the manual and it references possibly the early TC's as the TD5 is LT230TE. However it does mention earlier TC's had double seals. I shall print it out and have another look. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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Post #194520 17th Dec 2012 10:30pm
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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
Finally got around to replacing the output seal.
New seal, new felt washer, new nyloc and bit that I haven't seen before, a dust shield for the rubber seal(at least that's what I think its called), So in order from the transfer case out it goes

Seal | dust shield | metal outer ring | flange | felt washer | 30mm nut | hand brake drum | prop

This is the kit I got > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251040285103?ssP...1439.l2649 and the dust shield I refer to is the one top right

This time drove the seal in a couple of mm in and then installed the dust shield. A thin smear of waterproof grease to ease the insertion and also a thin smear on the dust and outer ring.

Cleaned up the brake shoes (and fingers crossed, it the leak is fixed I will replace the shoes)

Topped up the oil with about 250mm - 500mm of oil. Again, if all good I will drop the oil and replace with fresh

Lets hope & cheers peeps 1999 Defender TD5 110

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Post #197318 29th Dec 2012 7:47pm
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excossack



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
A feeling of I've been here before - Transfer case leaking again Sad time for a new seal and I might as well buy a new flange kit just in-case. Just when I was about to replace the shoes, so I think I will wait and see if I fix the leak first before replacing the shoes 1999 Defender TD5 110

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Post #352290 18th Aug 2014 12:28pm
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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
Is it worth trying to pressurise the case to see where exactly the oil is blowing out?
Post #352297 18th Aug 2014 12:42pm
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are you sure its not the felt seal behind the nut and washer

most of the time the felt seal gives up after a while , there was a recall for this and the fix is to put silicone sealer on the back of the washer then fit and tighten nut
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smb wrote:
Is it worth trying to pressurise the case to see where exactly the oil is blowing out?


I have had the drum off and I can see the oil dripping from the rear output flange area. Sad 1999 Defender TD5 110

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Post #352325 18th Aug 2014 2:41pm
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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
munch90 wrote:
are you sure its not the felt seal behind the nut and washer

most of the time the felt seal gives up after a while , there was a recall for this and the fix is to put silicone sealer on the back of the washer then fit and tighten nut


Not sure where from exactly other than the rear seal area. So, silicone on the rear of the felt washer and install as normal?

The leak has been gone since replacing the flange back in Dec 2012! 1999 Defender TD5 110

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John M0VAZ
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Post #352327 18th Aug 2014 2:43pm
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no sorry didn't make it very clear

fit felt washer as normal , then sealer on back of metal washer so sealer is up against the felt seal , so sealer is in between metal and felt washer

ive never fitted just the felt seal always sealer as well

put a reasonable amount on ,but not masses of sealer ,put metal washer on then push up tight by hand in to place making sure sealer pushes out around washer and I bit up the hole in the middle to seal around threads . wipe excess off then fit and tighten nut
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The one shown in the 7th picture from the bottom (just by the drum shoe) the small one or the bigger shiny one?
http://www.discovery2.co.uk/rear_output_seal.html 1999 Defender TD5 110

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Post #352342 18th Aug 2014 3:36pm
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the smaller one , the one under the nut
Post #352344 18th Aug 2014 3:40pm
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just looking at the pictures and they used to have a oil deflector mounted on the two bottom backplate holes , idea was if the seal leaked it helped keep the oil off the shoes by letting the oil run to the back plate and out side the drum

think they done away with it few years ago never noticed until now

another bit of so called progress or penny pinching
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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
Do you have a picture of the said deflector? I will have a google and see what appears. 1999 Defender TD5 110

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Post #352363 18th Aug 2014 5:35pm
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google defender hand brake images , and its a plate that bolts on to the two bottom bolts
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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 SW Caledonian Blue
One of these?
http://www.landroverweb.com/Images/Propsha...flange.jpg 1999 Defender TD5 110

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Post #352372 18th Aug 2014 6:08pm
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