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Glynparry25



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Protecting roof paint?
Kalispera,

With another project looming on the truck (I haven't even finished the current one) I am looking to mount a few items to my roll cage- I need to order items in advance as the always take soo long to get here.

Living out here has made me realise that leaving dirt on paintwork and then left out in the sun isn't a good idea. Out here it accelerates the rate that the paint then burns and peels off the metal. Have any of you put anything on your roof to prevent this happening whilst you can't clean it for whatever reasons.... roof rack etc?

I am looking at the possibility of some sticky back vinyl?........... any suggestions/ ideas?

Glyn Dog Sheep
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Personally I would be concerned about applying sticky back vinyl to the roof in a hot climate.

Would the adhesive plus heat attack the paintwork? Would the adhesive cure so much that the vinyl could not be removed from the roof when required?

Vinyl lettering stickers can be removed by careful use of a pressure washer to lift the edge of the lettering prior to peeling letter of.

Now is the adhesive used on lettering/stickers etc the same as that on sheet sticky back vinyl? If the answer is yes go for it, if no then proceed with caution.

Brendan
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plastdip, paint the roof in that and that should protect it im sure they do it in clear but a matt black would look pretty sweet Thumbs Up no rubbing down etc just a good clean and apply the paunt- when you dont want it peel it off Thumbs Up CSK Automotive
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You could try using a nano sealant like Gtechniq C1. It's used to protect paint from light scratches etc so may do what you need.
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All I can add to this is that vinyl letters are cut from rolls of vinyl, so yes, one and the same
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I agree and disagree with you Matt.

Am guessing that vinyl lettering comes out of light weight vinyl probably 60-80 microns. However there is also heavy weight vinyls used on furniture. Will the adhesive used on lightweight vinyls be the same as medium or heavy weight vinyls?

Am not sure hence why I say caution.

Now do we have an expert on self adhesive vinyls on the forum?

Brendan
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Glynparry25



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Hmmmmm, a few things to think about.

Brendan, Matt is in the vinyl sign making business Thumbs Up

But.... when you mention furniture vinyl it makes me wonder what the roof will look like in a nice mahogany effect Cool

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Glynparry25 wrote:
Hmmmmm, a few things to think about.

Brendan, Matt is in the vinyl sign making business Thumbs Up

But.... when you mention furniture vinyl it makes me wonder what the roof will look like in a nice mahogany effect Cool

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leeds wrote:

Vinyl lettering stickers can be removed by careful use of a pressure washer to lift the edge of the lettering prior to peeling letter of.
Brendan


A heat gun is often a more effective solution of peeling the lettering off, although as you quite rightly said, a pressure washer also works fine Thumbs Up
As Matt has already said, vinyl lettering is made from a sheet of vinyl, so is the same thing.

3M offer a paint protection film, seen here: http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_U...tion/Film/
The film is designed to protect the paintwork, and when removed is supposed to leave virtually no residue, which can sometimes be the case with ordinary vinyl. Hope that helps Thumbs Up An engine to TDi for!
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As someone who is an end user of wraps I can tell you it will damage the paint let no one tell you different 3m matamark makes fook all difference Thumbs Up
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That Scotch Gard sounds interesting!

Interesting what you can learn from the forum Thumbs Up

Now will Matt be offering Glyn a bespoke leather roof covering with silver stitching??? Shocked Razz

Brendan
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As Ken has said, vinyl wraps damage the lacquer when removed.

I think personally, I would put aside the money that you would pay out for a wrap to have the roof 'blown over' when you come to sell (or sell to a short bloke Whistle ), after all the vinyl itself will still mark so won't look any better
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Hi Glyn you mention that you have a roof rack and you want to install more things on it. You will consider to install this type of ply wood cover with aluminum like the G4 type off over your roof.

You improve the use of your roof rack reduce the temperature over the roof and consequently in the cabin


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