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| o4dn Member Since: 08 Jan 2010 Location: South West Posts: 538   
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Never had any issue with the gearbox on mine. Actually I find the MT82 much more refined than the R380.
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31st Oct 2012 10:44am |
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| d j hutton Member Since: 30 Jul 2009 Location: Dorset Posts: 1044  
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mines ok so far
Possibly an over reaction of sorts, as presumably you'll get a full 3 year warranty in case there are problems. Bear in mind that you are more likely to hear of problems people have had rather than 'my gearbox is fine, I'm worried I don't have a problem' And its possible that some have been unlucky but you can never be sure how the gearbox /vehicle has been treated/driven, my 90 is 23 years old and I had the gearbox replaced a couple of years ago when I upgraded the transfer box to a disco ratio, mainly because it was out and there was a bit of wear on the main shaft splines and for the small amount of money I had it changed as well (just so I knew it was going to be ok for a few more years) Welcome to the forum. DJ 1989 200tdi 90 csw 2011 110 usw Orkney grey Buy British 🇬🇧 Defender Clothing Designs available at http://www.rangesports.com/acatalog/Defender-Stuff.html |
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31st Oct 2012 10:49am |
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| farmer giles Member Since: 09 Feb 2011 Location: worcestershire Posts: 1299 
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hi BSA,
welcome to the madhouse. occassionally Land Rovers go wrong; i have owned 10 of various ages in the past 22 years and never had a problem that wasn't caused by me - so in my book the reliability is good (bar my current 110 in for warrenty rust work) i do read on this forum about mechanical problems and they do eventually get resolved (virtually all under warrenty), but the benifit of a forum is to help solve problems with combined knowledge. i hear far greater horror stories with electrical faults on discos and RRs i wouldn't hesitate to get another defender |
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31st Oct 2012 10:50am |
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| The Boy Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: East Northants Posts: 1459  
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If you put the clutch issue aside then my last two Puma have been OK gearbox wise. I like the gearbox and the only fault I moan about it the crunch between 1st and 2nd. It really bugs me and had it on both vehicles. I am now on 29k at the three and a half year point.
I have heard some saying the gearboxes are useless however I have not had any failures (yet). |
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31st Oct 2012 10:57am |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8578
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Welcome to the forum BSA.
However I am curious about your first (double identical posts the same forums 21 minutes apart??) Many people on this forum have had absolutely no problems with gearboxes so why are you panicing about them? Or is there another reason behind the decision or these posts? Brendan |
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31st Oct 2012 11:04am |
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| davew Member Since: 02 Jan 2012 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 888 
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I think you worry too much. You probably aren't cut out for Defender ownership as you'll spend all your time worrying about this noise and that noise instead of just enjoying the vehicle. I came up with a theory many years ago that Land Rovers will reject their owners if they are not suitable. It always seems to be that those that worry and pick at every minor noise and problem always end up having the most problems. Those that just accept it's part of Land Rover ownership and just get on and drive it end up with the most reliable vehicles. As an example, a 90 I know was once owned by the most fastidious and picky person I know. He bought it from new and spent the first couple of years taking it back and forth to the dealership complaining about the finish on the bodywork. The dealer ended up stripping back and respraying nearly every panel on it, in some cases twice, until he was finally happy with the finish. By the time the vehicle reached 5 years old every panel had oxidisation problems apart from the two panels that hadn't been resprayed. A local farmer I know bought a similar 90 a couple of months after "Mr Picky" bought his. He didn't care about the finish on the paintwork and the vehicle spent it's first 5 years on a working sheep farm. If you washed all the s**t off it all the bodywork looked as good as the day it left the factory other than the odd dent here and there, where an errant ewe had had attempted an ambitious escape plan, and the rear load bed where 5 years of sheep urine had done the load bed no favours. http://www.yorkshireoffroadclub.net/ Last edited by davew on 31st Oct 2012 12:09pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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31st Oct 2012 11:13am |
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| Glynparry25 Member Since: 16 Feb 2009 Location: Miserable Midlands Posts: 3015  
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Yet another owner here who has had no probelms with gearbox or clutch in 35,000 (half off-road) miles
Have you been talking to some Jap cr@p owners who are trying to justify buying their vehicles over a Land Rover? Glyn   |
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31st Oct 2012 11:52am |
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| diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6074 
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My view is that you should get the vehicle and try it.... you never know, it might not break down! 
As was said above, it'll have 3 years (or whatevers left on it) warranty, so if it does go wrong, just shout..... maybe shout at your dealer instead of whining on here?  |
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31st Oct 2012 11:56am |
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| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069 
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^^^ what he said
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31st Oct 2012 1:39pm |
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| T1G UP Member Since: 08 Dec 2009 Location: Bath Posts: 3101 
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Just picked mine up.
Nothing wrong with it sir! As I have explained a few time it only does it when its hot...I'm talking 200 mile at 75 hot. So I have it back, it drives as good as the day I got it and I will wait til my next long run to see if it does it again. Not put off by it as I understand the issue. The rest of it is a ok. Imho buy an old disco for 500, try that before you plung 30k in |
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31st Oct 2012 1:53pm |
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| BSA627 Member Since: 29 Oct 2012 Location: london Posts: 3 |
Thanks for all the reply's ,First off the reason for the double post is i originally posted in the wrong place ,
I am not winging about any potential problems with the gearbox i am only reacting to others on this forum that have experienced problems. When i in fact visited the showroom for my test drive the salesman informed me that the vehicle i wanted to take out for a test had developed a problem with the gearbox it had covered 150 miles so you can understand my concern I test drove the vehicle and was very impressed and have always set my heart on a Defender i have a caterham so i know all about hand built cars and driving a car that was designed 50yrs ago with all their idiosyncrasy's that go with this type of vehicle. My original plan was to have it serviced from day one buy a local independent landrover garage that all the locals round here use and comes highly recommended , It now seems wiser to use a main dealer to comply with the warranty in case of any major issues problem is the nearest main dealer is 30 miles away all this has to be taken into consideration. Thanks for every ones input |
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31st Oct 2012 2:02pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17235 
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I have now done over 100k miles on my 2007 Puma and although the original clutch was replaced due to the spring problem the gearbox has been great.
I also have a Td5 Disco 2 which I have owned from new, and can say with absolutely no heistation whatsoever that the MT82 gearbox is a far, far nicer box to drive with than the awful R380, surely one of the baulkiest and unpleasant gearboxes ever fitted to a LR vehicle. Every time I swap from one vehicle to the other I am struck by just how much better the MT82 is! The one thing that I would say is that any LR gearbox requires more mechanical sympathy and understanding to get the best from than modern car boxes, and getting the technique seems to be a challenge for some. I always double-declutch down changes, and quite often upchanges too (and I do this on all cars not just the Def), and, as with all gearboxes, this helps. Also, the Defender MT82 set-up is very susceptible to drivetrain backlash which can make changes uncomfortable, but this is not the box itself. As far as I can tell it is a combination of backlash in the drivetrain coupled with the flow restrictor on the clutch. Good technique can get round this. |
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31st Oct 2012 2:45pm |
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| Birdy Member Since: 07 Oct 2011 Location: Côte d'Azur Posts: 862 
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My 2.4 is a year old and I find it crap: the gearbox crunches, there’s a graunching from the rear when I take a long sweeping bend at speed, leaks and rattles everywhere…
Am I worried? I bought a truck to use it as a truck - towing my boat and filling it with wet, muddy nautical paraphernalia - and if I’ve any time left over to faff around polishing bodywork and cleaning (wire) wheels, I’ve a Morgan which needs a bit of TLC. As for anything mechanical, well, noises and squeaks are a Land Rover non-optional accessory and if anything actually breaks the garage will fix it, won’t they? And a couple of days before the 3-year warranty has expired I’ll make a list of anything I’m not happy with and they’ll fix that too, won’t they? I bought the damn thing to have fun with, not to make my life miserable. ENJOY! Peter |
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31st Oct 2012 3:21pm |
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| farmer giles Member Since: 09 Feb 2011 Location: worcestershire Posts: 1299
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the best solution to strange noises and rattles is to fit a louder stereo
there are several folk on here that can help you with that |
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31st Oct 2012 3:33pm |
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