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| amondeggs Member Since: 06 Mar 2011 Location: Telford Posts: 452   
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I'm considering upgrading to a HID headlight system. I currently have standard lights with phillips extreme bulbs but still find them poor.
Have been looking at kits like this one on eBay item number eBay Item No. 310407648743 which appear to be a reasonable price and simple to fit. Anybody used these? A good option or not? Thanks in advance  |
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14th Jul 2014 8:34pm |
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| mk1collector Member Since: 17 Sep 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 6769  
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They're illegal but many still use them
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14th Jul 2014 8:57pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582
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Basically ILLEGAL
If you have 10 minutes to spare read THIS Depart of Transport view on legal situation The important bit reads
Also I believe HID need self levelling and wash wipe fitted Just checked and DoT says it needs self levelling and cleaning. Also need E marking as a complete unit Brendan Last edited by leeds on 14th Jul 2014 9:27pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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14th Jul 2014 9:11pm |
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| munch90 Member Since: 26 Oct 2013 Location: guildford Posts: 3558
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apart from being illegal
the lens reflector is not set up for that type of bulb , and I was told you get a cr@p pattern |
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14th Jul 2014 9:15pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2645  
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definitely NOT! I have had 2 different sets fitted to my Puma, and guess what, I have recently spent the money to get a set of Truck-Lite LED lights. You say you have standard light, why not do the Wipac upgrade? If you do not want to go that route, then your only real option is LED --
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15th Jul 2014 5:43am |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582
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Now which forum sponsor is doing a Defender 2 special offer on Truck-Lites and Nolden lights at the moment? 
Nolden 7" Bi Led HED headlight the best road legal LED headlight by far
Brendan |
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15th Jul 2014 8:11am |
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| jimbob7 Member Since: 06 Jul 2013 Location: uk Posts: 2055 |
Try Wipac Crystal headlamps with Osram nightbreakers (90% or 110%) and headlamp loom upgrade,(the new loom will also save your headlamp switch from melting).I got mine from here, but you can buy cheaper or make your own.It's a good cheap mod if you cant afford led's,you could add spot/foglamps if you need extra light.
HIDs are a fu**in nuisance to other drivers when they're not fitted properly,there is good reason why they need the correct reflector/lens, self levelling AND headlamp washers. https://shop.landreiziger.nl/modificatie/m...toren.html Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5. |
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15th Jul 2014 12:55pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731  
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All of the above plus I've had a couple of similar HID kits off eBay for non-car projects and they are basically a waste of money. In one of the kits one bulb was defective and in the other the ballast blew two bulbs and then died completely.
"Proper/approved" HID kits for specific models are a lot more expensive, often £200+ and there's a reason for it. Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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15th Jul 2014 1:37pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20453
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If your not running Crystal light units that'll be your issue regardless of bulb type.
I have Philips bulbs and I'm happy with mine with Crystals. You either go this route or LED, ones much cheaper and gives a reasonable light output. (Acceptable) Over standard that are poor. Or there is the LED route, although I've never used or seen them they are meant to be the best. Theft is a worry though and I don't like light guards.. As previously mentioned wiring upgrade can help but I've not done this myself. If I really need light output the spots come on, other than that just dipped, the roads are never quiet enough hardly. Saying all this I don't do much night driving anyway. |
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15th Jul 2014 1:48pm |
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| Mdm Member Since: 11 Sep 2013 Location: Sunny Lancashire Posts: 1625
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If you want some non road legal hid kits I have two sat in the garage
Need you ask why Nice and bright Ideal for spotlights or off road lights or that chav look on your boy racer corsa Saxo etc |
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16th Jul 2014 6:19pm |
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| amondeggs Member Since: 06 Mar 2011 Location: Telford Posts: 452
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Thanks for all the replies
I did not know that they were illegal but I do now, shall be considering other options |
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16th Jul 2014 8:01pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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I think there was a guidance note from VOSA that stated that self levelling was not required if the vehicle was stiffly sprung or did not have a large pitch range, e.g. a sports car. |
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17th Jul 2014 2:09pm |
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