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66north



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2.2 Intercooler lower hose. Support bracket factory upgrade.
Took my 2013 Defender into main dealers for a leaking front crank seal under warranty last week. On collection the mechanic told me they'd also installed a support bracket to the lower intercooler hose as a precautionary measure.

For the record it's the wire spiral bound hose you can see behind the radiator on the left hand side of the engine bay when stood at the front of the car with the bonnet up. The simple U-shaped bracket prevents the bottom of the hose rubbing on the top of the steering box.

Called in at dealers today to collect something from the parts department and stood alongside me was a Land Rover Assist guy with a (split) hose in his hand! He told the dealer he was fitting a new hose and that he'd advised the customer to book the car in at the dealer for the bracket upgrade.

It's obviously common enough for LR to carry out an upgrade so it's one to look out for.
Post #344077 9th Jul 2014 6:53pm
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K9F



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey
Thank you. Bow down

K9F wrote:
There was a recall for a chafing pipe over two and a half years ago......

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic10264....afing+pipe

Another thread.....

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic21673....ooler+pipe



http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic29158....afing+pipe If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
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Pickles



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This subject has recently been raised on the Aussie forum too.
There seems to have been various "fixes" for a chaffing turbo hose over the last couple of years,...hoses with wire coils around them, "ties" attached to hose etc. So, what is the current "fix"?
And some owners get a recall notice, and some don't?
Pickles.
Post #344144 9th Jul 2014 9:56pm
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66north



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To clarify my vehicle already had spiral bound hose before the upgrade. The factory upgrade is a simple bracket that goes under the hose to prevent it touching the steering box.
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
Wondering if there is Technical Service Bulletin, or other official notification, for this. Would be useful to have before walking into dealers and being told they know nothing about it and never heard of any issues Whistle
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Pickles



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G'Day Supacat.
The "number" you need for the recall is Q360V2, well that's what is it is in Aus anyway.
Mine falls into the Vin range, so I guess it'll be being done. However, after reading info on this forum, I'm worried that my airbox mounting will be damaged during the process, as the airbox has to be removed, and this is apparently difficult with a good chance of the airbox mounting bracket being broken.
Pickles.
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
Thanks, a quick google finds it. Looks like my vehicle is in the VIN range & dealer should be writing to me.

Service Action, Charge Air Hose Turbo to Intercooler

Publication No.: Q360v2
Model: Defender (LD)
Model Years: 2012 - 2013
Vin Range: LD412051 - LD445881
Date of Issue: 25/06/2014
Expiry Date: 30/04/2016

Dear Colleagues

The charge air cooler (CAC) hose, between the turbocharger and charge air cooler, can become detached. On Right Hand Drive (RHD) vehicles ONLY, the CAC hose may also foul the steering shaft.

Please note: This Service Action replaces Q205 for the charge air cooler hose replacement. Q205 has been re-issued for the vehicles affected by the coolant hose spring check and/repair only. Please ensure any vehicles showing on DDW affected by Q360 and Q205 are repaired at the same time.

Action to be taken

You are requested to contact the owners of the affected vehicles and request that the vehicle is made available at the earliest opportunity to replace the charge air cooler hose. A sample customer letter for you to use is attached.

Unsold vehicles must be repaired prior to hand-over of the vehicle for retail sale.

A number of vehicles have been reworked at the factory prior to dispatch and can be identified by a windshield label bearing a (enter detail). These vehicles are no longer affected by this Service Action and have been removed from DDW.

Please check DDW to ensure that the vehicle is affected by this Service Action prior to undertaking any rework action. DDW will be updated to reflect only those vehicles affected. Should you require a listing of the affected vehicles in market, please contact the Land Rover Field Actions team by email at jlrcamp@jaguarlandrover.com. All overseas requests should be forwarded via the National Sales Company/Regional Office only

At the time of confirming a booking for vehicle repair, please ensure that all outstanding Field Service Actions are identified to ensure the correct parts are available and adequate workshop time is allocated for repairs to be completed at one visit.

Description Part No. Qty
Hose (LHD & RHD) LR061831 1
Bracket (RHD) LR053189 1
Nut (RHD) FN106046 2
Finisher (RHD) EDV500210 2
Air Duct Bracket (RHD) LR057448 1
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Scotm



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Scotland 2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 SW Orkney Grey
Just had my new pipe and brackets fitted when in getting the rattling ECU fitted properly. (I think it had already had the bracket on the alternator fitted earlier in the year at some point.)

When I drove away from the the dealer the engine sounded much noisier. Low and behold when I opened the bonnet the cover on the air filter wasn't fitted properly. Soon sorted, and back to normal. Also checked non of the air filter mounts were damaged.
Post #345958 18th Jul 2014 6:53am
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Supacat



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS DCPU Keswick Green
Has anyone had notification from their dealer to have this work done, rather than having it done as it was in for other work?

I'm just wondering if I should wait or jump right in and get it sorted.
Post #345969 18th Jul 2014 7:40am
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Pickles



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I reckon I'm in the Vin range, but I ain't heard nothing yet?
Pickles.
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mrandmrsh



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Think mine had this "fix" at the last service. Was ok going in, whistling like a Censored when it came out.

So I wouldn't rush in to get it done. In my experience a decent jubilee clip and plenty of muscle works best.

C 2015 110 USW XS in Santorini with premium contrast leather seats in tan/black, black headlining and with Dual Finish alloys (in the garage, now on Wolf rims with Goodyear MT/Rs)

2012 '62' 2.2 X-Tech 110 USW now gone ...
1984 90 soft top with full roll cage, 200 tdi engine etc now sold
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Jim_Bean



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black
Just beware -- http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic21673.html

Check the air box bracket.
Post #346139 18th Jul 2014 8:07pm
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H3nry



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Any picture?
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Jim_Bean



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This was the information I posted previously : -

So my MY2013 110 went in to have the new bracket mod fitted to prevent me needing a 4th intercooler/turbo pipe in a year.

The bracket is in two pieces. One section (comprised of two pieces) bolted to the alternator and holds the pipe securely.

Here is it with the first part bolted to the alternator - you can clearly see where the steering column has been rubbing through the 4th pipe as it shiny and clean:



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And here with the second part enclosing the pipe :



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There is also a second bracket that is bolted just behind the front grille and the pipe rests in this rather than being bolted in:



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**** HOWEVER - PLEASE CHECK THIS ******

To fit the bracket the dealer has to remove the air box :



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When they do this the bracket mounted to the wheel arch liner can be easily broken - as they have done to mine :



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I asked to be in the workshop when they fitted the bracket and the force they used to remove the air box was ridiculous. When they broke the bracket I was told not to worry as "that always happens" and that "the other mounting point is more than enough to hold the air box, you don't really need two."

If i hadn't been in the workshop I'm sure they wouldn't have told me about the bracket.

**** PLEASE - make sure you check your air box bracket for damage AFTER the updated turbo bracket has been fitted *****
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H3nry



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Thanks mate, pictures say a thousand words Smile.
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