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willy eckerslike



Member Since: 15 Jun 2009
Location: North yorks
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 HCPU Keswick Green
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I have replaced the immobiliser completely, I have installed a separate alarm system with multiple battery sounders, not in the usual locations, I have installed all of the different alarm deterrents anti tilt, microwave sensors, glass attack etc, I also use a pedal lock, I have two tracker systems and a dummy system. I have also sprayed smart water on every surface and I have installed Datatag RFID tags into virtually every high value panel and component.

I am trying to find a company that does the paint UV marking like Datatag systems which is invisible to the eye but penetrates the paint layers.

I think you could do all of this for about £500 but I spent a bit more as I was learning as I went along.

There is a school of thought that says don't overly personalise your vehicle, or leave valuables in it and get great insurance.[/quote]


Bloody Hell where do you live Shocked Good investment though at least you've done everything you could. Original Member Pie n Pea Club.
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Post #166883 7th Sep 2012 11:03am
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SimonR



Member Since: 28 Jun 2012
Location: Horsham, West Sussex
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Surrey Rover wrote:
Dobby,
Do you know the success rates of these? (mech-lock) I did consider fitting one but putting it on the brake like our Italian friends do.


They are as good as any of the other products from a deterrent point of view. Except that they are not that visible. Unfortunately, I'm not convinced about putting them in the brake or clutch lines as both have bleed nipples (if you catch my drift). While you might not drive without clutch or brakes - if you've just stolen it, you are probably not bothered about crashing the gears etc!

Putting a valve in the fuel or steering lines makes more sense from the point of view of stopping it being driven away?

Si

P.S. Still my favorite is sitting an old cylinder head on the seat with the Haynes book of lies open at the 'diagnosing engine problems' page!
Post #166889 7th Sep 2012 11:30am
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Surrey Rover



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P.S. Still my favorite is sitting an old cylinder head on the seat with the Haynes book of lies open at the 'diagnosing engine problems' page![/quote]

That made me chuckle, like it. Nick

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Post #166890 7th Sep 2012 11:41am
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Sticky



Member Since: 07 Dec 2008
Location: Derbyshire
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England 2016 Defender 130 Puma 2.4 HCPU Stornoway Grey
Willy - I live in sleepy Derbyshire, however we had builders on site for six months and I could watch, the next day, the thieves on CCTV break into their pound and nick their supplies, it happened virtually every week, including a dumper truck and mini digger.

The digger and dumper had trackers and were on their way to Sheffield, both were recovered by the Police, but the thieves has disappeared. The mini digger was on a trailer, but the dumper truck was nearly in Sheffield, so they had driven it all the way, which we were told was about a two hour drive!!

For a Defender owner with a Tracker this makes setting up a geofence essential, anyone who is prepared to sit in a stolen truck for two hours is certainly stupid enough to drive your car away and spend an hour or so looking for a tracker.

I also liked the look of the Mech Lock from Mud but couldn't help thinking that a thief would happily 'crash' the gears to get away, fitting to the brakes makes more sense but if they had to cut the lines and drive would they really care?
Post #166960 8th Sep 2012 5:28am
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party monkey



Member Since: 31 Dec 2010
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England 2005 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Cairns Blue
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I am trying to find a company that does the paint UV marking like Datatag systems which is invisible to the eye but penetrates the paint layers.


@Sticky.... I'm fairly sure the Datatag UV etch stickers are made for them by Retainagroup, the guys that run the ISR.

Have a look here and see if thats the type of thing you are looking for.

Retainagroup did an LRO promo pack a year or so back, which along with the glass etching system, had UV self etching metal part marking stickers and also some plastic marking stencils where you applied the UV fluid over the top. I think you can still buy that pack direct from Retainagroup for about £35'ish.

I've got some contacts at Retainagroup, so drop me a PM if you want the guys details etc. I'm not sure they'll do exactly what you are looking for but they may be able to help. Thumbs Up Jon - 110 td5 [sold]. Currently Defenderless.
Post #166974 8th Sep 2012 7:09am
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noworries4x4



Member Since: 24 Dec 2010
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For the engineeing types on here there definatly are some areas that need to be looked into. I think the main quick way is to lock the steering or transmission without having to get under the vehicle ect. Sone sort of holed plate on the draglink that a lock can be engaged into when on full lock. Fuel taps seam a good idea to.
Mine is trakered but its a monitered system for work i have to text them the time i am leaving in the morning if it moves before then they contact the police directly. Or i can set up geo fences with them for our machines if they leave the site we put them on we know instantly.
When i fitted the tracking unit i tryed to be as devious as possibe but you have to get power from somewhere and extra wireing is a dead givaway and points the theif to the location. The aerials are hard to discuise aswell. If everything is under control you are not going fast enough.

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Post #166995 8th Sep 2012 8:31am
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BigWheels



Member Since: 21 Mar 2010
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green
Seen the Nene Overland pedal box http://www.neneoverland.co.uk/4x4_storage_...ityFMJ.htm

But a separate fuel cutoff/denial device could be the answer. No gas = no motion.

If a gear lever could be locked or removed, & the Defender parked in gear (also low box?), that would also help.

Of course MagnaVolt is the ultimate deterrent....  Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender
Post #178129 22nd Oct 2012 9:07pm
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Lou Sparts



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Zambezi Silver
I always liked the ignition switch setup on older saabs where you could not remove the key unless reverse gear was selected,sure you could still hot wire it but could only make your getaway in reverse ! 2005 Td5 90 XS

Steve
Post #178154 22nd Oct 2012 9:36pm
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