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chipmunk



Member Since: 10 May 2012
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2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Oslo Blue
90 brakes upgrade
Is there a well known, proven, straight swap upgrade to front brake pads/discs to improve performance thereof? Not involving changing calipers. Ordinary everyday use TD5, sometimes with unbraked Ifor Williams wiht light loads.
Cheers in advance.
Post #159270 1st Aug 2012 8:40pm
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Dave-H



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England 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Tonga Green
Yep .. EBC slotted/drilled discs and EBC pads.

Fitted front and rears on mine ... 'standard' braking feels no different ................ but brake harder and WOW ! Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant.
Post #159404 2nd Aug 2012 11:16am
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chipmunk



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2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Oslo Blue
Thanks Dave will suss prices.

Dave
Post #159442 2nd Aug 2012 1:16pm
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LR90XS2011



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
Ive used EBC on other cars and bikes with good results, go direct to thier web site for the best deals and they are UK made DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
Post #159519 2nd Aug 2012 7:30pm
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bob neville



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Spain 2001 Defender 90 Td5 SW Epsom Green
Having Delphi/Lockheed discs and TRW pads fitted to the 90 next week.

Be difficult to do a comparison to whats on now as the discs are almost non existent Shocked

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Post #159608 3rd Aug 2012 7:13am
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
bob neville wrote:
Having Delphi/Lockheed discs and TRW pads fitted to the 90 next week.


You found some then. Thumbs Up Did they come from the same place as mine in the end?
Post #159611 3rd Aug 2012 7:38am
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Naks



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South Africa 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SW Alpine White
Dave-H wrote:
Yep .. EBC slotted/drilled discs and EBC pads. Fitted front and rears on mine ... 'standard' braking feels no different ................ but brake harder and WOW !


How does that affect the traction control? --
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Post #159618 3rd Aug 2012 8:46am
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Dave-H



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England 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Tonga Green
Naks wrote:
Dave-H wrote:
Yep .. EBC slotted/drilled discs and EBC pads. Fitted front and rears on mine ... 'standard' braking feels no different ................ but brake harder and WOW !


How does that affect the traction control?


Shouldnt make any difference ... I know Landytom has this set up on his 110 with ABS/TC and he has had no issues... ? Guns and Landrovers .... anything else is irrelevant.
Post #159713 3rd Aug 2012 4:20pm
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wslr



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It won't affect the electronic systems. EBC and similar pads just give slightly more initial bite and don't fade as much as a standard compound pad. The Green Stuff pads are OK, but do demand some heat in them to get them to work effectively. I ran them on a Range Rover for a few years, and being an auto, you had to reign it in on the first few brake applications and then the pads appear to be OK after that. As you probably know, EBC do a few blends of pads for specific applications.

On the Range Rovers, EBC sold a 'SUV' pad starting with the part number 6xxx, and also a heavier duty pad starting with a 7xxx. The 7 series pad was far superior to the 6, but I have not researched the Defenders. The compound was the same but the metal backing on the 7 series was much thicker, which helped when the caliper pistons pushed out on them, and perhaps the metal helped with moving the heat away from the pad surface?

Slotted discs are OK, and help keep the face of the pads nice and flat. Drilled are not really worth it, and on lesser brands can actually contribute to cracking as heat can build up at the point where the hole is drilled. The better ones are chamfered to prevent this.

SuperPro Europe were importing and distributing some Aussie versions of the EBC's, but I have not seen anything recently promoting them.
Post #159721 3rd Aug 2012 5:11pm
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LR90XS2011



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
Im running standard compound EBC on the BM and the brakes are stonking much better than the OEM and have lasted longer so far than the originals, no evidence of scoring etc on the disks at 40k miles so very hp. Cost £60 for all four wheels about 18 months ago which was about 1/3 the cost of OEM from BM. DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy
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boode



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England 2003 Defender 90 Td5 HT Rutland Red
Has anyone used the Disc Brakes Australia 4x4 survival Discs ?
Good reviews but not sure if available in the UK ?
Post #159809 3rd Aug 2012 9:59pm
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mr_tdi82



Member Since: 24 May 2011
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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 90 Td5 HT Zambezi Silver
have ebc green stuff pads 7 series and discs slotted not drilled, all round. very good so far. got mine from cam skill very good prices.
Post #160270 6th Aug 2012 9:10am
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wslr



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boode wrote:
Has anyone used the Disc Brakes Australia 4x4 survival Discs ?
Good reviews but not sure if available in the UK ?


Those were the ones who SuperPro Europe were distributing.
Post #160282 6th Aug 2012 10:26am
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