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| Arbman Al Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Surrey Posts: 80  |
What colour should they be, and waht is the difference, can you find out? It seems atleast three of us have bought 'genuine' seals from the same place recently, yours and Big Steve's have failed (not fitted mine yet). I queried the fact that the seals came loose in a plain envelope, and that there was no way of telling if they were genuine or not - they could just have easliy been the cheaper britpart ones that the supplier sells as well 
Al. 1996 Defender 130 converted to TD5 and auto 1975 Triumph Stag 3.0 V8 |
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3rd Jun 2012 1:02pm |
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| big steve Member Since: 24 Dec 2009 Location: hertfordshire Posts: 2456  
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laurie what were the symtoms you had when they failed mine are letting diesel into the oil ?
steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs 3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit ashcroft atb in transfer box 6 speed auto in build |
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3rd Jun 2012 3:32pm |
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| Arbman Al Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Surrey Posts: 80 |
These are the seals I was sent as being genuine. Can anyone tell from the photo if they are or aren't?
 Click image to enlarge Admin note: this post has had its images recovered from a money grabbing photo hosting site and reinstated  1996 Defender 130 converted to TD5 and auto
1975 Triumph Stag 3.0 V8 |
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3rd Jun 2012 8:22pm |
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| Laurie Member Since: 22 Feb 2008 Location: Sussex, England Posts: 2897  
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Initially my Defender took a lot of turning over to start. A few miles later it died completely. Can't answer about the colour until my repairers are back at work next Wednesday. I did have the pump (Bearmach) replaced at the same time, could be that but unlikely. |
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4th Jun 2012 12:08am |
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| big steve Member Since: 24 Dec 2009 Location: hertfordshire Posts: 2456
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No that's exactly what mines done
Steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs 3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit ashcroft atb in transfer box 6 speed auto in build |
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4th Jun 2012 8:45am |
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| Laurie Member Since: 22 Feb 2008 Location: Sussex, England Posts: 2897
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I think we've been conned.
I'll leave it 'til my repairers inspect it properly on Wednesday and act on whatever they say. |
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4th Jun 2012 9:29am |
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| defninety Member Since: 13 May 2010 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 38
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New genuine seals from a dealer will be green. I think at one point they may have been a different colour, red/brown spring to mind but I could be wrong.
If they are "genuine" seals I see no reason for them to be sent loose as they come individually bagged so no splitting up would be required. It would make me suspecious as to the origin of them if they arrived loose. Without scaremongering, if you have changed the seals and are getting diesel in the oil and you find the seals look ok there is a chance that you have a crack in the head. Believe it or not it is surprisingly easy to do when you remove and replace injectors without the correct tools. If the injectors are not removed and refitted squarely and pressure is applied to the injector forcing it against machined cavity in the head it can cause a crack through to the fuel rail gallery. I believe land rover released a service bulletin detail this as they had a large number of warranty claims for this issue. Last edited by defninety on 4th Jun 2012 9:26pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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4th Jun 2012 9:38am |
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| Laurie Member Since: 22 Feb 2008 Location: Sussex, England Posts: 2897
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Mine were changed by a very experienced, properly equiped garage that I've used for all my Land Rover repairs for more than 20 years.
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4th Jun 2012 9:43am |
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| defninety Member Since: 13 May 2010 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 38
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In that case you shouldn't have an issue!  |
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4th Jun 2012 9:55am |
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| Laurie Member Since: 22 Feb 2008 Location: Sussex, England Posts: 2897
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Hope not  |
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4th Jun 2012 10:04am |
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| Arbman Al Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Surrey Posts: 80 |
As I haven't fitted mine, I am sending them back. Glad I saw this thread.
The seller said to me that they buy them in packs of 100 so need to split them to sell 5 at a time - that's why they were loose. He also said if they had been the cheaper ones that they sell, they would have been in a blue bag. Make of that what you will. If anyone wants to know the supplier then pm me. 1996 Defender 130 converted to TD5 and auto 1975 Triumph Stag 3.0 V8 |
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4th Jun 2012 10:20am |
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| big steve Member Since: 24 Dec 2009 Location: hertfordshire Posts: 2456
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I fitted mine myself but it about the 10th set I've fitted other my td5 vehicles using proper injector bars to remove them
It does seem very strange that two vehicles have failed with the same seals in a matter of miles after fitting ? Steve 2015 2.2 tdci hardtop xs 3.2 conversion DONE 238bhp and 707nm torque and thats just the start ;-P hybrid turbo in build -done ready to fit ashcroft atb in transfer box 6 speed auto in build |
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4th Jun 2012 10:45am |
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| defninety Member Since: 13 May 2010 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 38
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If they are not supplied like this, then don't bother. Not sure how much you paid/saved but you should be able to get the all for around £30 straight from LR dealer, seems the safest and easiest way to ensure you have the correct ones.
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4th Jun 2012 11:22am |
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| defninety Member Since: 13 May 2010 Location: Warwickshire Posts: 38
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This is what LR attach to the reman engine they supply
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4th Jun 2012 11:25am |
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