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BigMike



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You guys with the underbody protection, diff guards etc, are you / have you also upgraded your track rod/drag link, track rod ends etc? Because if not, they're the things you're going to break/bend way before you damage your diffs
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MK



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Why is that?

Yo can get away with a bent rod but not with a molten diff Rolling Eyes Puma 110" SW

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Post #138091 9th Apr 2012 3:11pm
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Harryb450



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I personally wouldnt recommend the solid steering bars, as i had a mate who had them and when he got snarled it broke one of the lugs off the swivel housing Sad thats just my two pence worth Smile

plus standard bars are easier to straighten when out in the field Thumbs Up
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custom90



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Harryb450 wrote:
I personally wouldnt recommend the solid steering bars, as i had a mate who had them and when he got snarled it broke one of the lugs off the swivel housing Sad thats just my two pence worth Smile

Probably best to keep with LR OE but protect it?
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Harryb450



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lrmaniac



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Lorryman100 wrote:
Sorry, I see where the confusion is coming from now Embarassed

lrmaniac has a LH drive Defender which means he probably has this front diff guard:


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yep Thumbs Up that's the one I have!

But, why is it RHD diff diferent from LHD? Isn't the diff the same whether is RHD or LHD? Same diff, same fixings, same protection Question

Lorryman100 wrote:
Also not shown, are a couple of brackets included which attach onto the top of the Diff mounting bolts and reach over the top of the diff to catch the top mounting hole you can see on each guard to secure them tightly to the diff at the top.

HTH Brian.


The one on the rear has those brackets ... It's a straight fit...But I only now have a decent set of tools to do the job myself! Regards
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Post #138099 9th Apr 2012 3:26pm
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BigMike



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MK wrote:
Why is that?

Yo can get away with a bent rod but not with a molten diff Rolling Eyes


The chances of actually cracking a diff are pretty remote to be honest (unless you're doing competition). The chances or bending a track rod etc or breaking it / or and the ends are far higher. Better to take replacement ends as spares. You may say its easy to straighten a bar in the field but trust me, it isn't. Doesn't matter if its a green lane in the UK, but somewhere more remote its a problem if your truck is going sideways or you can't steer it.

If you're going to be on a track where the rocks are so sharp / large that there is a good chance you're going to knacker your diff, then I'd think twice about attempting it (there is nothing like that in the uk, certainly not on a green lane anyway, maybe with the exception of parker moor but even that's not hard in terms of vehicle damage or the potential of it)
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MK



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Totally different topographic situations then. Cordilleran roads have lots of rock debris and honestly you can not clean the road up totally by hand. So, we need to drive through them carefully and undoubtly the diff is hit quite often. Puma 110" SW

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Post #138107 9th Apr 2012 4:00pm
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Lorryman100



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I fitted them after banging the rear diff off a boulder buried in heather whilst going to collect a deer I had shot. Each to their own in what they need/want to fit to their own vehicle Thumbs Up
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BigMike



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Fair enough Thumbs Up
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custom90



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Lorryman100 wrote:
Each to their own in what they need/want to fit to their own vehicle Thumbs Up

Very true needs and wants are two different things but in my opinion being prepared for the unexpected is always the best. Easy to get cought out underneath with things like river crossings / fords as you can't exactly tell what's down there. And of course you get the ****** some times that do things on purpose to damage vehicles. I've seen barbed wire pulled across a Byway before Rolling Eyes
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Harryb450



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So then going off what Lorryman100 says, these are the correct ones for a 90, no welding required Thumbs Up


http://www.qtservices.co.uk/parts/defender...-guar.html
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Lorryman100



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Don't get me wrong, I look for and take on board the opinions offered by people with more practical experience than myself. Sometimes though want and need get in the way of the decision process and after the almighty thud and scrapping noise of the hidden boulder the diff guards became a need. Don't think I have hit anything else apart from a LGV pre-crushed traffic cone which the rear diff dragged for a mile on the M9 and a spilt load of breeze blocks on a back road. Evil or Very Mad

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If anyone needs their waxoyl removed from under their defender? Just drive over Heather (the plant!!) a few times, especially when wet....... removes it a treat Big Cry
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Lorryman100



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Harryb450 wrote:
So then going off what Lorryman100 says, these are the correct ones for a 90, no welding required Thumbs Up


http://www.qtservices.co.uk/parts/defender...-guar.html


That is the ones I would have went for had I had a 90. Thumbs Up
I see the back guard doesn't need attached to the diff/axle casing? Must just use the securing bracket over the top of the Diff as per the front ones?
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Happyoldgit



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Glynparry25 wrote:
I had QT guards on the Discovery- they do a great job and as posted above need no welding providing you get the ones that wrap all the way over the top.

But to also throw this out there.......... Also consider the southdown. I decided on this one for the Defender because of the extra protection it offers:



Glyn Dog Sheep


I've had one or two of those Southdown axle / diff guards before and my current Southdown steering guard has been fitted to at least my last three or four Defenders. They are excellent bits of kit but ISTR that Southdown are no longer involved in the underbody protection game and are instead concentrating on lighter products:

http://www.southdown4x4.co.uk/

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