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| d j hutton Member Since: 30 Jul 2009 Location: Dorset Posts: 1044   
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Not scientific but my two pennyworth.
Did a 125 mile run up to Milton Keynes (and back)yesterday and had put in a bit of Ultimate as it was the only pump free and was in a hurry before trip, performance seemed a bit more sprightly on the motorway, on the way back filled up with regular diesel and 'thought' it was a bit less in performance. Hard to quantify but it felt 'better' Also had the same on a trip to Scotland a couple of years back on the 200tdi 90 - filled up with ultimate and noticed that it did a calculated 33mpg instead of the usual 29mpg (I was on holiday so was calculating fuel consumption, just for interest as I was having a disco transfer box put in on the way back and wanted to see if it made a fuel consumption difference) I guess the difference in consumption was eroded by the extra cost, but just my experience. Think I'll try one of the additives and see if that makes a perceived difference to me. DJ 1989 200tdi 90 csw 2011 110 usw Orkney grey Buy British 🇬🇧 Defender Clothing Designs available at http://www.rangesports.com/acatalog/Defender-Stuff.html |
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19th Jun 2012 9:06am |
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| BigWheels Member Since: 21 Mar 2010 Location: Somerset Posts: 1405  
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I don't live far from Wellington (cross-field  ) Taunton's BP station is now Sainsbury's (allegedly the best suoermarket petrol & diesel of the big 4). We have Shell, but I don't know where BP is now.
Which diesel is the most DPF friendly, now 2.2s have to have the thing? Found this atricle http://www.petrolprices.com/about-fuel.html#j-2-2 The attraction of diesel engines is they are safer in accidents, much less fire & explosion risk, & being less vulnerable to dampness. Maybe more important for older Defenders... Land Rover Defenders. 67 years heritage, minimal appearance changes, still going strong all over the world. Not a fashion vehicle, but fashionable to own. Made for the needy, not the greedy. Ta ta Defender |
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30th Dec 2012 8:01pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6298 
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I suspect the more the bio content the smoother the engine.......
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30th Dec 2012 8:55pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731  
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...also more resistant to Marders (martins) 
Around here, the little beggars crawl into the engine compartment and chew all the cables. Ignition cables are their favourite. I've only ever driven diesels  Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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30th Dec 2012 8:58pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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  sorry, got carried away...
As penance to the topic - I have stuck to Aral Ultimate (BP brand) for around a year now. The other local choices of Shell and Esso seem to run rougher. Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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30th Dec 2012 9:18pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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 Why would that be ?
Bio diesel methyl esters are chemicals not exactly a friendly blessing to your engine. There is a reason why car manufacturers, including LR, are specifically saying that their new engines are certified to run on max 5% bio diesel (=B5) content..... The bio diesel industry is pushing hard to allow B10 and even B20...... Similar story by the way with ethanol in gasoline. That stuff is known and proven to slowly eat away certain engine components (fuel lines, etc.) if cars are not used on a regular basis... Daily users ok, but don't leave your car parked up for weeks at the time all too often.... When it comes to its effects on engines longevity, not much positive has emerged yet abt bio fuels, but obviously this does not get much press easily. As said, and I have to correct myself here, not only BP Ultimate here in Switzerland contains zero % bio diesel, but contrary to the EU, ALL Swiss diesel still is 100% mineral diesel! Bio diesel never got approval here to date. That's the advantage of not being ruled by Brussels. 
The fact that my engine runs distinctly smoother on BP Ultimate (the Swiss, but occasionally French/Luxemburg/Belgium too) than on the previously used cheaper French supermarket diesel probably has nothing really to do with the bio diesel content in that French supermarket diesel which is B5, but with the fact that BP Ultimate probably indeed is a superior refined product. I presume that premium fuels of other major fuel brands would be similar, but I have no experience with it. Main point is, don't get fooled all too easily by the bio fuels lobby statements, and politicians all too easily have jumped on that band wagon too, although with the higher food prices, there is a change noticeable here..... Saying all this because my industry touches the bio fuels industry fairly closely.... You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation.
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31st Dec 2012 6:23am |
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| pannawonica Member Since: 21 Nov 2010 Location: Clackline Western Australia Posts: 568 
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No EUSSR here but we still get Bio but can be avoided !
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1st Jan 2013 3:00am |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6298
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well all I can say is......
ESSO and 500 ml 2so !! wow. I can hardly believe this myself and I'm Mr economy - 565 miles on one tank ! bong and orange light at 530miles 
I just hope it doesn't mean something is broke - engine has sounded as sweet as a nut on this combination.
(I still swear blind there's the very occassional sticking of the egr but thats another job that I need to attend to in time) for now its just yea haaa. |
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21st May 2013 5:42pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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Count your blessings!
Matt  Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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21st May 2013 9:08pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6298
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I am.
I don't believe I've been this happy with mr truck since taking delivery. |
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21st May 2013 9:11pm |
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| ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731
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At risk of being accused of bias
, if you've still got the 2.4 then you could get the new BAS remap - makes all other maps (including the factory one) seem like pooh! I am seriously hard to please but after getting my bicycle stolen today  at least I could get into the 110 and enjoy my "new" smooth and energetic BAS Defender  Tell someone you love them today because life is short.
But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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21st May 2013 9:20pm |
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