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GUM97



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United Kingdom 1997 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Stornoway Grey
Very nice Mr. Green Looks very low though Laughing An engine to TDi for!
"Land Rover- Proudly turning drivers into mechanics since 1948"
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Suspension in access height on thick grass with the auto steps lowered makes it look like its scraping the floor! 2016 D4 HSE

1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF

1982 Series 3 SWB Petrol
Post #261334 26th Aug 2013 8:43am
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RRUK
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Right,

It's crunch time, I have to decide if I should sell the Defender or not. It's now a decision based purely on "Do I need 2 cars as I can't drive 2 at once".

Is now a good time to sell with winter on its way?

Anyone? 2016 D4 HSE

1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF

1982 Series 3 SWB Petrol
Post #280537 8th Nov 2013 12:02pm
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pjb



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Best time to sell is when snow is forecast although when has a "man " decision about landrovers got anything to do with do I need Whistle 2020 P300 HSE
Post #280538 8th Nov 2013 12:13pm
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couplands



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United Kingdom 2001 Defender 90 Td5 HT Oslo Blue
I have a few cars, but always prefer to take the Defender.

My advice is, unless you need the money keep it, as you'll be sorry to lose it after all that work you put into it. You have built it to a great spec, just for your needs.

If you never intend to drive it, then I guess it doesn't make sense, but I'd hate to be without mine.

Just my 2c

cheers

simon

ps To answer your question, yes now would be a good time to sell..Wink
Post #280550 8th Nov 2013 1:32pm
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The thing I think about is that although the Defender has great offroad ability, if the roads are snow covered and its cold and icy, would I rather go out in the RR with all the electronic aids for driving in such conditions, rather than the Defender which has none!?? 2016 D4 HSE

1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF

1982 Series 3 SWB Petrol
Post #280584 8th Nov 2013 4:13pm
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couplands



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United Kingdom 2001 Defender 90 Td5 HT Oslo Blue
Yeah, I know. I have a D4 and am very confident about its abilities in bad weather. But the Defender feels more bullet proof (it does have ABS/TC though), and in reality in bad snow, its the other cars/trucks that block the roads that are the problem. More often than not I'm stuck because the road is blocked by cars/trucks not the snow.

In the Defender I feel more comfortable when cars are sliding around, a few more dents on the Defender wont matter...on the D4 I'd be a bit miffed...!

Its nice to have the choice in my view, but as I said, if you're never going to use it....

cheers and good luck

simon
Post #280587 8th Nov 2013 4:27pm
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GUM97



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United Kingdom 1997 Defender 90 300 Tdi HT Stornoway Grey
^^I'd agree with that. A Defender gives you more faith in the snow, and even with all the terrain response systems on the RR's/Disco's I'd rather be in the Defender! Thumbs Up An engine to TDi for!
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Post #280591 8th Nov 2013 4:50pm
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LCJ



Member Since: 07 Sep 2009
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If you can afford to keep it and its only lack of useage making you sell it then dont. I've done this with bikes, thinking I only need one, but lo and behold a few months after getting rid I find myself thinking."ooh, I wish I had xxxx bike now" and before you know it I'm buying a replacement which costs me more to get back to the standard I want than I got for the one I sold.

But if do sell it, let me know because I've watched this thread admiringly and would be interested Mr. Green
Post #280604 8th Nov 2013 5:35pm
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barbel jim



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 HT Tonga Green
RRUK wrote:
The thing I think about is that although the Defender has great offroad ability, if the roads are snow covered and its cold and icy, would I rather go out in the RR with all the electronic aids for driving in such conditions, rather than the Defender which has none!??

And there lies the answer to why there are so many accidents once the weather turns.(Not aimed at you by the way) Everyone sits there snug in there own little world with traction control, abs etc. Remember going up the M6 last year by Stafford in blizzard conditions, the usual Audi's etc still doing 90 Rolling Eyes and then round the corner a pile up. Mr Audi man got out and promptly landed on his butt Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter
The older the Land Rover the worse the heater, so you appreciate the conditions more Whistle Whistle
Back on topic - If it doesn't owe anything then why sell it? You have invested alot of time and effort, and reading this thread enjoyed it all. You run a supercharged FFRR so for the price of 4 tanks of juice it must be road ready for 12 months???
Post #280610 8th Nov 2013 5:46pm
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Gareth



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Keep it.

1. Its costing you not a lot.
2. Its not really depreciating, might possibly appreciate in the next few years?.
3. From your pictures, it seems to be under cover?
4. You have put a LOT of work into it.
5. It is very desirable, you will only miss it if you sell it.
6. Your Range Rover is very nice, but what if you need to go to the tip with a smelly bin bag?

I have a brand new D4 HSE Luxury, along with a 2002 TD5 90 CSW, and a 1966 Series 2a. I have no problem with the fact that the S2 did less than 700 miles last year. My wife often takes the D4 in preference to her Fiat 500, in which case I have to drive the Defender some distance, and I really don't mind! I actually enjoy it. 2021 Defender 110 X-Dynamic HSE D300 MHEV
1966 S2a 109 aka Betsy
1968 S2a 88 aka Bob
2014 Jaaaag F Type 3.0 Supercharged.
Post #280615 8th Nov 2013 5:56pm
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I use the RR for everything anyway, so going to the tip, going shooting, having muddy people and dogs on board etc is just the norm.

Ironically, the Defender hasn't been used this shooting season yet and sits in the garage all shiny and clean!


 2016 D4 HSE

1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF

1982 Series 3 SWB Petrol
Post #283403 19th Nov 2013 7:26am
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ChrisJ



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Corris Grey
Just sat and read through the full 23 pages of your thread, you have a fantastic defender, one of my favourites! I love all the subtle modifications you've done, has to be one of the best td5 hardtops about.

On a side note, i can't be too far from yourself, donnington is my local track, I'll keep an eye out for you!
Post #284957 24th Nov 2013 9:40pm
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CEEGEE



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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 90 Td5 HT Cairns Blue
Okay, I've just read your thread for the first time - I really like to see how people choose their different mods - I wouldn't dream of "messing around" with other cars in the way I do with the Defender - I love it Very Happy

Between myself and SWMBO we have a few cars (well not quite all cars, as one is a VW camper), and I like them all for different reasons - if you don't need to sell it I'd hold on - mind you at circa 18 to the gallon (I'm guessing) and heavy depreciation, the running costs on the RR SC could be eye watering.

One thing about the Defender, you don't have to think about depreciation - with most cars, its the biggest cost by far.

Great thread - keep the Defender!
Post #284987 24th Nov 2013 11:56pm
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Thanks for the thanks chaps Thumbs Up 2016 D4 HSE

1998 110 TUM HS FFR Hard Top XD WOLF

1982 Series 3 SWB Petrol
Post #285551 26th Nov 2013 10:13pm
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