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nivmargalit

Member Since: 19 Apr 2011
Location: under the sun
Posts: 30

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey

puma clutch

First I have to say that this forum help me a lot!, I am reading for a long time the posts in the forum.
In the last week I here the noise from the clutch, when I tern off the car in neutral geer, I read about this noise in the forum before I had one.
I aproch Land Rover dealer and advise him about the noise, after a few meetings they advise they will do all the job and parts on they account., I have to say that my defendr is MY2007 and have 50k km on it.
before 35k they change geer and clutch.
my arguments was :
1. that this clutch not spose to finish after 35k km.
2. the noise was there ( not same volume)when i both the defender from them , 8 months a go and less 15 k km.

but now two day after they change the clutch, the nice is back, not in the same volume but all the time when i tern off the car in nutral you here the grrrrrrrrrr...

15th Dec 2011 5:27pm

BigMike

Member Since: 13 Jul 2010
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 2253

So take it back.

15th Dec 2011 6:35pm

Landyrob

Member Since: 07 Jul 2011
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 93

2012 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 HT Alpine White

sound's like the springs are a bit loose... LANDROVER Defender Best 4 x 4 x Far
Defender TD4 90 Hardtop 2.4
Defender TD4 110 Hardtop 2.2

15th Dec 2011 7:05pm

nivmargalit

Member Since: 19 Apr 2011
Location: under the sun
Posts: 30

BigMike wrote:
So take it back.

next week I will be there , let's see what they will say.

16th Dec 2011 12:27am

XS Pete

Member Since: 13 Jan 2011
Location: Suffolk
Posts: 632

2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

Quote:
but all the time when i tern off the car in nutral you here the grrrrrrrrrr...

Are you sure that its not the EGR self-cleaning cycle you can hear?

Pete

16th Dec 2011 6:23am

nivmargalit

Member Since: 19 Apr 2011
Location: under the sun
Posts: 30

XS Pete wrote:
Quote:
but all the time when i tern off the car in nutral you here the grrrrrrrrrr...

Are you sure that its not the EGR self-cleaning cycle you can hear?

Pete

When I push the pedal i do not hear the noise.

16th Dec 2011 9:14am

spudfan

Member Since: 10 Sep 2007
Location: Co Donegal
Posts: 4646

nivmargalit wrote:
XS Pete wrote:
Quote:
but all the time when i tern off the car in nutral you here the grrrrrrrrrr...

Are you sure that its not the EGR self-cleaning cycle you can hear?

Pete

When I push the pedal i do not hear the noise.

Definately a clutch that needs changing. Same symptoms as mine ie. pedal depressed no rattle on turnoff, before it was changed. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali
2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu
2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai

16th Dec 2011 8:49pm

nivmargalit

Member Since: 19 Apr 2011
Location: under the sun
Posts: 30

update
I have been at the dealer shop they advise that this is a normal noise.
nothing left me to do but pray that it will not get worst.

20th Dec 2011 7:22pm

skhyam

Member Since: 31 Dec 2011
Location: London
Posts: 1

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

I had noises

- then the clutch failed all together

- take the car to the dealer - the following service bulletin exists - if the Defender is in warranty (3 years) they should fix it

I got this from another forum - I hope it is useful

Land Rover Service Bulletin
Models LD - Defender LTB00166

Subject/Concern: Clutch Noise/Poor Selection
Models: Defender (LD) 2.4 Puma Diesel Engine. 2.4 Puma Diesel Engine. VIN-range: 7A732615-9A766150
Markets: All
Section: 308-00
Summary: Potential difficult gear selection and noise in clutch operation.
Cause: Improvements have been made to the specification of the clutch plate and clutch cover to
address both the potentially difficult gear selection and noise during clutch operation
concerns.Suggested customer concern code P24.
Action: Should it become necessary to install the clutch kit assembly, refer to the new procedure
detailed in Global Technical Reference GTR Workshop Manual, section 308-00.

Parts Required:
Description Part Number Quantity Clutch kit Assembly. URB500080 1
Labour Time: Operation Description Operation No. Time
Clutch kit Assembly Renew. 33.10.01 3.9 hours
Repair/Claim Coding: Causal Part: URB500080
ACES Condition

As said, they only action it if you complain, its not actually a recall.

I know of quite a few needed doing
Good Luck

2009 110 XS Puma TDCi

31st Dec 2011 1:25pm

MaxD90

Member Since: 26 Sep 2011
Location: Dominican Republic
Posts: 12

2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Cairns Blue

Ohhh yeah,,,,,, take it back, you need a new clutch kit. It happen to me, the warranty cover you. You'll notice the difference. Good luck One life, live it.

19th Jan 2012 2:24am

AndrewS

Member Since: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Hereford
Posts: 3707

2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 SW Rimini Red

Take it back 130's have feeling's as well you know

19th Jan 2012 6:14am

iruffell

Member Since: 03 Sep 2010
Location: Marlow, Buckinghamshire
Posts: 343

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Zambezi Silver

Just had mine done under warranty the difference is amazing, no rattles and no clonks when changing gear.

19th Jan 2012 9:31am

cinstone

Member Since: 29 Nov 2010
Location: Stourbridge
Posts: 375

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Keswick Green

Thanks for the VIN number range. Guess who's VIN is slap bang in the middle of the range

.

Just under 41k miles now. It's still going, but for how long?

Chris. http://shropshirelandrovers.freeforums.org

2015 Defender 90 XS SW & Helen, 1964 IIa. Previously 2012 Defender 90 XS SW & 2008 90 XS SW.

Previous LR's: Michael, my 2008 Defender 90 XS SW.

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19th Jan 2012 4:40pm

CRJ

Member Since: 12 Mar 2011
Location: Sealand - Denmark
Posts: 253

1991 Defender 90 200 Tdi ST Alpine White

skhyam wrote:
I had noises - then the clutch failed all together - take the car to the dealer - the following service bulletin exists - if the Defender is in warranty (3 years) they should fix it

I got this from another forum - I hope it is useful

Land Rover Service Bulletin
Models LD - Defender LTB00166

Subject/Concern: Clutch Noise/Poor Selection
Models: Defender (LD) 2.4 Puma Diesel Engine. 2.4 Puma Diesel Engine. VIN-range: 7A732615-9A766150
Markets: All
Section: 308-00
Summary: Potential difficult gear selection and noise in clutch operation.
Cause: Improvements have been made to the specification of the clutch plate and clutch cover to
address both the potentially difficult gear selection and noise during clutch operation
concerns.Suggested customer concern code P24.
Action: Should it become necessary to install the clutch kit assembly, refer to the new procedure
detailed in Global Technical Reference GTR Workshop Manual, section 308-00.

Parts Required:
Description Part Number Quantity Clutch kit Assembly. URB500080 1
Labour Time: Operation Description Operation No. Time
Clutch kit Assembly Renew. 33.10.01 3.9 hours
Repair/Claim Coding: Causal Part: URB500080
ACES Condition

As said, they only action it if you complain, its not actually a recall.

I know of quite a few needed doing
Good Luck

The labour time 3.9 hours - is that what an authorized dealer is expected to use changing the clutch??

CRJ 88 Ser. 3 1980 -sold
Puma 130 - 08- sold
90 200tdi 1991 - sold
88 Ser. 3 1977 200 TDI
110 CC 2003

21st Jan 2012 8:23am

blackwolf

Member Since: 03 Nov 2009
Location: South West England
Posts: 17337

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

CRJ wrote:
The labour time 3.9 hours - is that what an authorized dealer is expected to use changing the clutch?? CRJ

No, it is the number of hours labour Landrover will pay the dealer for doing the work under warranty, and is generally less than the number of hours the job actually takes, and also generally less than the times listed in the official Repair Times Manual.

21st Jan 2012 11:01am

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