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Soulrider911

Member Since: 04 Jul 2022
Location: California
Posts: 108

1989 Defender 90 2.5 TD SW Chawton White

MANTEC wheel carrier install craziness and question

Well I finally got a Mantec wheel carrier and went to install it today and quickly realized the old owner decided to use a gallon of silicon to basically weld it to the car...

There was no way I was going to get the mounting bracket off... I tried everything... heat gun, piano wire, floss... I was at a loss. Then my wife had a brilliant idea... what about just cutting the welds and removing the mounting posts and leaving the plate... Great idea.

Here we go...

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All the posts cut off

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Ok so now I have a question, how do i actually mount an aluminum wheel to a wheel carrier as the posts are much smaller than the lug holes in the wheel?

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Is it safe to just use the old backing plate?

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2022 Defender 110 SE
DIY’er | Always learning

Last edited by Soulrider911 on 15th May 2023 5:23pm. Edited 1 time in total

13th May 2023 7:24pm

Mdm

Member Since: 11 Sep 2013
Location: Sunny Lancashire
Posts: 1628

looks like you have a steel wheel carrier ? they have shorter studs.

do you have the part number off it?

dont use the plate as shown....

if possible, buy the right carrier or you can maybe use a wheel spacer but it will put a lot of strain on the back door and hinges.

13th May 2023 7:43pm

Dinnu

Member Since: 24 Dec 2019
Location: Lija
Posts: 3429

2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black

Standard practice is to use KTD500100 behind the wheel. Then you can also have some adjustment.

The wheel nuts (for alloys) will fill the hole, same as when they are fitted to the wheel hub. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
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13th May 2023 7:49pm

Soulrider911

Member Since: 04 Jul 2022
Location: California
Posts: 108

Thank you for the replies. I did a sanity check and MANTEC only makes 2-wheel carriers as far as I can tell: half-door, and full-door.

The part number for the one I have here is 214-MASWC.

So folks that are mounting aluminum wheels must be using spacers. I will see if my dealer has the spacer nuts or I will order them thank you for the help.

Also just a thought, why would using the mounting plate not be suggested? From what I can tell the backing plate allows more contact on the wheel's backside. 1989 Defender 90
2022 Defender 110 SE
DIY’er | Always learning

13th May 2023 8:03pm

Soulrider911

Member Since: 04 Jul 2022
Location: California
Posts: 108

K think I found exactly what was needed, Mantec makes a special kit for alum wheels
https://www.lrparts.net/ba132mk-mantec-swi...rrier.html

1989 Defender 90
2022 Defender 110 SE
DIY’er | Always learning

13th May 2023 8:10pm

Mdm

Member Since: 11 Sep 2013
Location: Sunny Lancashire
Posts: 1628

Mantec closed a few years back but they used to make quite a few carriers for alloy and steel wheels. yours does early and late models and should fit without the old plate.(steel and alloy corrosion)

add the spacers as shown plus nuts and it should be fine

13th May 2023 8:14pm

Soulrider911

Member Since: 04 Jul 2022
Location: California
Posts: 108

Thanks! When you say “add the spacers plus nuts, is there something in addition to the spaces I need aside from the lug nuts? 1989 Defender 90
2022 Defender 110 SE
DIY’er | Always learning

13th May 2023 8:22pm

LandRoverAnorak

Member Since: 17 Jul 2011
Location: Surrey
Posts: 11324

No. The spacers go behind the wheel and allow you to adjust its position, fore and aft. This is typically to make sure that the wheel doesn't foul the rear wiper. With the wheel in place, you'll then need standard alloy wheel nuts. As Dinnu mentioned above, alloy wheel nuts will fill the holes in the wheels in exactly the same way as when they're mounted on hubs. The studs are, of course, exactly the same diameter. Darren

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13th May 2023 8:51pm

Soulrider911

Member Since: 04 Jul 2022
Location: California
Posts: 108

Yep, I follow thank you! Will keep you posted, I basically spend all day removing and cleaning up the fallout from the stupid stock mount. Tomorrow I hope to get the new one on, and in the meantime I 3d printed some mounting spacers. 1989 Defender 90
2022 Defender 110 SE
DIY’er | Always learning

13th May 2023 10:40pm

Soulrider911

Member Since: 04 Jul 2022
Location: California
Posts: 108

Hallelullya. I will just say I have a lot of appreciation for you DIY'ers that have installed a Wheel carrier... It is no joke getting all the geometry right on these things. But, it's on and I can finally mount my spare!.
Thank you for all the help

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14th May 2023 9:34pm

Screbble

Member Since: 26 Apr 2015
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 2108

2004 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Zambezi Silver

Great job

Landy looks lovely - I’m sure the environmental conditions help - but you’re clearly looking after her

15th May 2023 6:27am

LandRoverAnorak

Member Since: 17 Jul 2011
Location: Surrey
Posts: 11324

It's great that you got there in the end. I know it looks a snug fit but was there no way of refitting your RH grab handle? Darren

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15th May 2023 7:13am

Soulrider911

Member Since: 04 Jul 2022
Location: California
Posts: 108

Good eye and callout. I did not even try, I will see if i can get it on there today. 1989 Defender 90
2022 Defender 110 SE
DIY’er | Always learning

15th May 2023 5:18pm

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