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Harty Member Since: 20 Feb 2021 Location: London Posts: 30 |
Very happy. Had an issue with the coolant heater, as I think a number of p400e owners did, which they sorted out overnight on warranty but suspect solved in new builds now so not an issue anyway. Is an amazing vehicle and engine.
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5th May 2023 9:10pm |
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Manu Member Since: 18 Apr 2023 Location: Rennes Posts: 3 |
Thanks Harty and anyone with experience of the P400e in extreme cold?
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6th May 2023 7:59am |
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Buz1500 Member Since: 07 Jul 2020 Location: Cumbria Posts: 150 |
I’ve had mine since February and it’s been superb. I had a P300 previously and after calculating my historical journey data I worked out that 75% of my trips were 25 miles or less. I was hoping that I could complete lots of these trips on electric only and substantially reduce my petrol consumption.
The reality has been far better than expected and running in hybrid mode has been a revelation. The battery will of course empty on any substantial trips but I knew that before I purchased the car. I plug it in every night using the three pin cable so that I always have a full charge the next day. What’s also helped is that I’ve moved to Octopus energy and their ‘Intelligent Octopus’ tariff. I get cheap electricity between 23:30 - 05:30 at 7.5 pence per kWh. The Octopus system won’t charge the car until the cheap tariff starts even if I plug-in before that time. I rarely have a completely empty battery so in effect I’m getting a running cost of 6.8 pence per mile using the battery based on a 21 mile battery range. 2019 Range Rover SDV8 Autobiography 2023 Defender 110 P400e X-Dynamic HSE - gone 2020 Defender P300 SE - gone 2019 Jaguar F-Pace SVR - gone 2013 SDV8 Autobiography - gone 2011 L322 TDV8 Vogue SE - gone 2006 L322 3.6 Vogue Se - gone 1999 P38 4.0 se - gone 199? Classic 3.5 - gone |
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7th May 2023 7:01am |
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Sw1ggy Member Since: 26 Feb 2022 Location: Scotland Posts: 15 |
We love our P400e, had it for 5 months now and done just over 4,300 miles in including 2 longer return trips over 400 miles each way. We’ve averaged 46mpg including these 2 trips, with most journeys between 3 and 25 miles. For sure, it’s thirsty on a longer trip - around 22mpg once battery has run down, so it’s important to get your use case right - if you do a lot of motorway miileage, you’d be better off with the diesel but for us it works well. It will even tow a fully loaded horsebox on electric! I’ve also found it’s not worth charging up on the motorway (65p a KW is more expensive than even the petrol consumption), but keep it charged up everywhere else - we’re still on a fixed rate deal from before the energy crisis at 18p per KWH, so definitely benefits us to keep fully charged - a friend down the road has a D300 defender and only averages 25mpg. The car has been perfect with no problems, although I have a few design niggles - I wish the boot was more spacious (especially deeper as the rear seat space is extremely good) and tHe spare wheel position is a bit of a pain for hooking up trailers! We’ve not had the HV coolant heater issue 🤞, but my wife’s disco sport PHeV has had it twice, but that goes this month as she’s going to take the Defender from me whilst I get something faster…. If the use case is right, go for it! Defender L663 P400e X Dynamic HSE
Gone: L494 RRS P400 HST Disco 5 HSE Luxury Disco 4 Landmark |
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8th May 2023 6:57am |
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Manu Member Since: 18 Apr 2023 Location: Rennes Posts: 3 |
Thanks for your detailed feedback. The cost per km of this engine depends a lot on use but it is difficult to find similar case, your data help ! I think I'm at 40% less than 100km (so around 48-50 Mpg) 40% 100-300km (around 30 Mpg I imagine, no highway) and 20% beyond (20-25 Mpg). If my estimates are good it comes to the same average cost / km as my current Amarok. I think I'll go
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8th May 2023 2:55pm |
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D50 Member Since: 08 Apr 2021 Location: Dublin Posts: 19 |
Hi Manu,
We love our P400e, and have it just under 12 months now with no issues. We previously had a MY20 D240 and find the drive is much more refined in the P400e. We went this route for similar tax reasons here in Ireland. As others have said it really depends on your journeys, a good bit of mine are short so its ideal and we charge on smart tariffs during the night which makes it very affordable. A recent long trip with no battery (1,000km+) returned about 24-25 MPG. The only item I wish was better is the boot space, with the raised floor and what I think is a tank for the battery on the left hand side do make it smaller than you'd like but we make do for all the other benefits! I do wonder when they might increase the battery capacity like the new RRS and FFRR which would make a big difference. |
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9th May 2023 10:25am |
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