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HTB



Member Since: 24 Mar 2013
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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Buckingham Blue
Drop arm ball joint - worth checking!
Can't quite believe the state of the drop arm ball joint I replaced on my TDCI last week. The vehicle had an MOT advisory on the rubber boot for a few years, but the previous owner hadn't bothered to change it.

The top right metal ring in the photo is the 'upper cup' the ball joint sits in - its practically lost all of its cupped section.

Its a quick and easy replacememt once you have the removal tool (or the right sized socket, some large washers and a long M8 bolt). Worth a check if you have never replaced yours....



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Post #984887 8th Mar 2023 10:11pm
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rustandoil



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England 2005 Defender 110 Td5 XS DCPU Bonatti Grey
It'll drive much better after you've sorted that out 👍🏻
Considered a Discovery drop arm conversion?
Post #984895 9th Mar 2023 6:42am
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
The boot should (I think) have been a failure not an advisory, and the condition the joint should have been picked up on the MoT test and been a failure long before it became that bad.

That joint is one of many things that should be checked, it's pretty appalling that people don't. It is, of course, the reason we have the MoT test.
Post #984898 9th Mar 2023 7:43am
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derbywill



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England 2005 Defender 90 Td5 XS CSW Java Black
They are a crap design, one reason why I went for the Discovery conversion when I fitted Sumo bars, much better design and easier to change.

Cheers

Will 2005 90 XS
1954 86'' Series 1 tilt
1968 88” 2A 200tdi
2002 110 Hardtop
Post #984902 9th Mar 2023 8:55am
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Bowbearer



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United Kingdom 1985 Defender 110 200 Tdi SW Auto Baltic Blue
Make sure you buy a good quality replacement.

i got a next day delivery from ebay because I needed the vehicle.

The part came in a Blue box!!!

When I tried to tighten it up to seat the ball joint the thread just chewed up, it was made out of cheese.
Will not make that mistake again.

My 110 does a lot of work off road and has a heavy front (salisbury axel) so I usually change them once a year to make sure they don't fail, easy to do.
Post #984907 9th Mar 2023 10:26am
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HTB



Member Since: 24 Mar 2013
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United Kingdom 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Buckingham Blue
rustandoil wrote:
It'll drive much better after you've sorted that out 👍🏻
Considered a Discovery drop arm conversion?


I need to have a look at the disco conversion. Currently getting to grips with all of the things that ought to have been changed out and replaced ages ago and clearing the MOT advisories. Poor car doesnt know what's happening to it at the moment!
Post #984970 9th Mar 2023 9:18pm
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RobKeay



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United Kingdom 2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Corris Grey
Brought mine from gwyn Lewis.
Post #984975 9th Mar 2023 9:54pm
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I Like Old Skool



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United Kingdom 1994 Defender 110 300 Tdi ST Coniston Green
In my experience the drop arm ball joint gets a lot of unfair flak. They are actually not as bad as people say and certainly not an annual consumable.
Granted, they are usually in shocking condition on vehicles I have bought, but this is either due to neglect or poor parts. They might not last forever, but fit genuine (via an alternative seller) or a good quality kit with good grease and make sure tha boot is kept in good condition and they do last many years. Not really worth modifying the steering set-up to get rid.

Also, not advisable to use the new pin to pull the seat into place, regardless of what make the pin is!
Post #984986 10th Mar 2023 5:20am
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Dinnu



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Malta 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black
To keep in mind that the drop arm ball joint is inverted, so once the boot is compromised, all the dirt, grit, water etc goes into the joint. Same if you swap over to a Discovery setup, once the boot is compromised.

One could drill and tap a thread for a grease nipple in the Defender ball joint kit. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
Post #984990 10th Mar 2023 6:21am
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
I have recently replaced mine to do a Sumo/Disco drop arm conversion, but the original ball-joint was still completely fine although the gaiter didn't have long to live. This is at 15 years old and 265,000 miles.

The originals are actually pretty good, unless the gaiter fails. Look after them and they'll look after you.
Post #985003 10th Mar 2023 8:50am
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