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| annette Member Since: 24 Nov 2017 Location: Tilarán, Costa Rica Posts: 68  
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I wonder HOW they ry to reprogram it.
It is usually not a problem.. Are they using a diagnostic that is uo to it? Like GAP, Blackbox etc? Fixing Land Rovers in rural Guanacaste |
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11th Dec 2017 9:14pm |
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| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069 
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The cluster is synchronised with the 10AS unit, something only Land Rover can do
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12th Dec 2017 7:04am |
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| annette Member Since: 24 Nov 2017 Location: Tilarán, Costa Rica Posts: 68
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1 the information is NOT stored in a Lucas 10 AS which are by the way a piece of cake to reprogram.
2 ¿¿ only Land Rover ?? The only technical bits they do is making ridiculously high quotes. 3 yes my IID TOOL does this and more . Blackbox does, too. Fixing Land Rovers in rural Guanacaste |
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12th Dec 2017 1:07pm |
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| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069
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I bow to your superior knowledge
When I imported my defender and tried to get a new cluster installed I was told only land rover can do it because the mileage/kilometers needed to be transferred and just popping a new cluster in would not work. I ended up just swapping the decals to mph |
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12th Dec 2017 1:20pm |
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| JOW240725 Member Since: 04 May 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7905  
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Might be worth speaking to Dan Padmore at Defender Electronics on Facebook, seems a bit of a whizz with this sort of thing. James
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12th Dec 2017 1:39pm |
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| proloFort Member Since: 16 Mar 2017 Location: Montereau Posts: 248  
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I have a KM cluster which I want to put into my defender. When we tried there was not start, I knew this would be the case so took to Land Rover dealer. They tried for 30mn to transfer data from the old to new but could not. The Land Rover software just stalled. Still have the MPH one for now.
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12th Dec 2017 5:44pm |
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| Birdy Member Since: 07 Oct 2011 Location: Côte d'Azur Posts: 865 
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“When I imported my defender… I ended up just swapping the decals to mph”. Only legal if the instrument illumination shines THROUGH the decal, sticking numbers over the existing ones doesn’t count. I found that out the hard way.
As for re-programming, this time round I ordered from the Norwich Main Dealer a Puma in LHD, it came with KPH only speedo and LHD dipping headlights (reversing and fog lamps wrong side for the UK too). Free of charge lamp changeover no problem, instruments too, BUT my truck was in the workshop for three days before the dealer could get the speedo to function correctly. So although it’s not easy, it can be done and your dealer should liaise with JLR. Peter |
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13th Dec 2017 12:45pm |
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| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069
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^^ exactly what I experienced, but if you take the dash unit apart you can simply swap the plastic decal over (I had kph only, bought a second hand UK mph unit and took the mph/kph decal out)
The fog and reverse are easily swapped, under the bonnet at the top of the tunnel there are 2multi plugs, grey and black, I can’t remember which one but I swapped the fog And reverse wires over in the connector and swapped the lenses over |
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19th Dec 2017 11:00pm |
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| annette Member Since: 24 Nov 2017 Location: Tilarán, Costa Rica Posts: 68
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Just FYI
The instrument cluster also does the translation between 100AS and the engine ECU. The engine ECU is on the CAN bus the 10 AS isn't. Hence I recommend to leave the speedo alone. Just transfer the odometer display Otherwise you have to do a new security learn! Ps Can't see why one would change kms to miles myself All spare km units please pm me. Fixing Land Rovers in rural Guanacaste |
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25th Dec 2017 5:04am |
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| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069
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^^
 What’s a 100AS?
- UK cluster decals have MPH and KPH - but ROW have kph only (where appropriate) |
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25th Dec 2017 8:22am |
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| annette Member Since: 24 Nov 2017 Location: Tilarán, Costa Rica Posts: 68
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Don't take it to Land Rover.. take it to a woman or man who wants tp do the job. a French Land Rover concessionaire used to send BECM problems to me.. under the condition that I told nobody that I repaired it for them. 
so.. go and ask in Landmania or Landroverfaq Fixing Land Rovers in rural Guanacaste |
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24th Jan 2018 3:36pm |
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| Terravecchia Member Since: 03 Jul 2016 Location: TerraVecchia Posts: 10  
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Hi, Just wondering if you solved your problem - My issue is that I have changed ECUs in my 2.4TDCI. At first it would not start due the Cluster preventing it, but after bridging two wires I got it started, the only problem is that my Nanocom tells me that it can find the VIN number and then stops, I can't proceed. Is there a way to get the Vin from the ECU back onto the custer? or change the VIN on the ECU? If anyone knows please let me know. |
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1st Feb 2023 3:51am |
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| MK Member Since: 28 Aug 2008 Location: Santiago Posts: 2415  
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If the replacement cluster is used then you basically cannot get away with it. Otherwise only a fully licensed SDD will be able to write the VIN into the cluster + the synchro with the immo. Puma 110" SW
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