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| marsie Member Since: 17 Nov 2011 Location: sheffieldish Posts: 532   
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Sorry for resurecting this thread, I am currently on the hunt for a 110 CSW to replace my 2013 Toyota hilux. I decided on a 110 as its a passenger car and therefore (should be) exempt from the new upcoming clean air zone coming into effect in Sheffield next month
I spotted a couple of suitable puma 2.2 CSWs on the net but when I checked on the GOV website they come back as 110 D/C utility(van) and therefore liable for the £10 per day charge 
I then put in the reg from my mates 2005 TD5 CSW and that comes back as exempt 
Guess another option for me would be to fit my old hilux with a 4uz V8. The 10mpg petrol hilux would be exempt in the clean air zone whereas the 30mpg puma wouldn't 
Or another idea would be to take my 1970 Series 2a diesel as that is exempt for the charge (but then again the cameras probably wouldnt be able to read the reg through the cloud of smoke )
You really can't make this sh*t up can you 2000 90 TD5,galv chassis, d2 axles ,Bas remap , alisport intercooler , d2 transfer box , side windows-more to come-much more!! *GONE*
2004 110 TD5 Double cab. *GONE* 2010 110 2.4 XS station wagon |
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24th Jan 2023 7:27pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17384  
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It really wasn't to get them into a lower tax class, it was to avoid having to make the safety modifications that would have been necessary to maintain an EWVTA M1 type approval. The reduced tax was a lucky benefit.
The difference in tax pays for an awful lot of days in Bath for those fortunate enough not to live or work there. |
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24th Jan 2023 8:36pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20375
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Talking of which check out their trust pilot reviews, between one and two and a half stars of 5.
If that was a business, it wouldn’t even exist on anything less than 3 stars review rating. Says it all really - the routes around it are a much more enjoyable and cheaper routes anyway. 
In effect, only costs around £3 - £5 perhaps if that to go around these zone things anyway so no loss. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴🇮🇪🇺🇸⛽️🛢️⚙️🧰💪 |
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24th Jan 2023 8:59pm |
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| marsie Member Since: 17 Nov 2011 Location: sheffieldish Posts: 532
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Trouble is my missus works as a critical care nurse at Sheffield children's hospital which is inside the clean air zone, so it's either I take her into work and (at the moment) pay the £10 per day CA charge or she drives in using her euro 6 charge exempt alfa romeo and pays £18 per shift for parking (obviously this isn't an option during any snow we get)
Looks like I'm in the market for a Td5 or pre 2010 puma Station wagon 2000 90 TD5,galv chassis, d2 axles ,Bas remap , alisport intercooler , d2 transfer box , side windows-more to come-much more!! *GONE* 2004 110 TD5 Double cab. *GONE* 2010 110 2.4 XS station wagon |
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24th Jan 2023 9:38pm |
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| 23GPS Member Since: 19 Jun 2010 Location: Blackdown Hills, Somerset Posts: 26 
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Free entry into a clean air zone in a Euro 4 diesel, that'll soften the blow of the £630 VED cost on my 110 SW next time I'm back in Yorkshire. Eighteen quid a day to park in Sheffield though, now that's a ridiculous charge. Keep it simple - poverty spec.
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25th Jan 2023 10:29pm |
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| DSC-off Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: North East Posts: 1408 
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Newcastle-upon-Tyne CAZ charges start very soon, 30th Jan 2023.
I'll be taking the car instead, or parking just outside the zone... https://www.newcastle.gov.uk/our-city/tran...n-air-zone |
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26th Jan 2023 10:34pm |
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| Moo Member Since: 01 Oct 2021 Location: UK Posts: 1374 
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You might as well get used to it. It's becoming the new norm in the UK and Europe.
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26th Jan 2023 10:59pm |
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| 90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2154 
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Its nonsense and basically attacking anyone that doesn't have a decent amount of disposable income
How is it a very basic 1.0 older car fails and yet you can buy the latest gas guzzling RR or whatever and its fine....... |
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28th Jan 2023 8:17pm |
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| Mdm Member Since: 11 Sep 2013 Location: Sunny Lancashire Posts: 1599
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yep i like the bit where they say we wont charge private cars and then charge cars , land rovers and campervans all in private ownership.
no one knows where they money they get is going to be spent..... or how it fixes a problem they have invented. |
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28th Jan 2023 9:01pm |
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| Moo Member Since: 01 Oct 2021 Location: UK Posts: 1374
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It's to do with NOX, CO2, particulates and the quality of the air that comes out. An old big 2005 D3 V8 is cleaner from that point of view than many pre 2015 diesels. The world is changing, more people work from home, councils want greater use of public transport (note the restrictions of parking spaces on new builds) and people want cleaner air. In many cases people don't need a big car. I don't need my Defender but I like it therefore I pay a penalty for having it. Sadly the world isn't fair and ULEZ are here to stay because whichever party you vote for won't change a thing. |
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28th Jan 2023 9:30pm |
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| J77 Member Since: 04 Nov 2019 Location: Fife Posts: 3395 
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Doesn’t matter what colour party you vote for, you always get green. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue
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28th Jan 2023 10:00pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2638 
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Just look at London, they have already calculated when revenue from ULEZ fines will drop and they have a team working on a Pay By Mile money maker.
Force people out of a car that they either own or can afford, then force them into debit for a car they cant afford and will never own once in the PCP trap and then clobber them for more money after letting them believe that they are doing some good. Sherman tankers the lot of them. |
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28th Jan 2023 10:17pm |
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| 90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2154
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An early 1.0 PETROL does not emit or use more fuel / emissions than the latest V8 monster...... The whole shoite show is simply an attack on those who can ill afford any debt or more bills, even "normal' people will struggle as will many business's Personally I have no interest in being in debt for some modern (mostly unreliable) piece of metal!! |
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29th Jan 2023 10:21am |
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| Moo Member Since: 01 Oct 2021 Location: UK Posts: 1374
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This is quite a good report looking at Euro engine status and mileage to compare emissions across diesel and petrol cars.
https://ee.ricardo.com/news/emissions-deterioration-–-the-cinderella-of-vehicl |
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29th Jan 2023 11:33am |
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